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Old 02-16-2012, 08:32 AM   #31
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They've achieved equally at hard court slams but h2h I would fancy Nadal. His endless retrieving and retarded slice BH would have driven Marat nuts.
This and that.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:02 AM   #32
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Remember fools Safin against Agassi AO SF 2004 made 33 aces and 0 DFs ..... you make the decision
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:07 AM   #33
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Default Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Safin in slam-winning form would beat any version of Nadal. But as others have pointed out, he wasn't in slam-winning form very often.
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I forgot we are talking about PEAK Safin (US Open 2000 vs. Sampras; AO 2004 vs. Agassi; AO 2005 vs. Federer).

In that case, we might see some bagels.
It's funny how the peaks are when it comes to Safin but I totally agree. This is a guy who blasted close-to-peak and untouchable-in-GS-finals Sampras off the court! Along with the Agassi and at-that-point-untouchable Federer encounters, it's easy to say Rafa would be in deep trouble.
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Peak Safin won over Peak Federer.

Peak Safin is almost impossible to defeat in HC.
affirmative.

peak safin was a monstah. ask sampras all about it.
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excellent thread idea/topic by 2003.
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I would pay a lot for a chance to see that . outcome of that match would easily surpass all nadal's beatdowns .

next on my wishlist of giving all matches would be hard court match between peak agassi and peak nadal

joy for my eyes and viagra for my libido

those early taken backhands would ruin nadal's libido though . no moonballing with these guys
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Default Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Safin has way more quality wins on HC than Nadal

USO 2000- Demolished Sampras who had won 7 HC GS.
AO 2004- Beat Roddick(When he was #1) and Agassi who had been the king in Australia in back-to back five setters.
AO 2005- Beat Peak Fed in the greatest HC match ever and came back to beat Hewitt in his home slam.
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it wouldnt be as easy for safin as some are beating their bananas at.
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Default Re: Peak Safin vs Peak Nadal in Hardcourt slams

Safin hits through Nadal easily at his peak on hard court, this isn't even a discussion. ala Del Potro US OPEN 2009
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Safin hits through Nadal easily at his peak on hard court, this isn't even a discussion. ala Del Potro US OPEN 2009
nadal was a rag doll there.
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it wouldnt be as easy for safin as some are beating their bananas at.
Well, the OP did say "peak". And peak safin would beat peak nadal on hardcourts everytime.

That said, "peak vs. peak" discussions are pretty pointless.

If Nadal and Safin "just played", Nadal would probably win most every time. The current record is 2-0 in favor of Nadal, both matches played on hardcourt.

Even a guy like Robredo or Santoro has a winning record against Safin (even on hard courts).

In reality, you would never see "peak Safin" against Nadal, because Nadal would not give Safin the kind of balls and rallies the produce "peak Safin".

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Speaking as a big Safin fan of the past, I say Nadal will dominate 3 out of 4 (RG, W, US Open) and Marat may have a chance at AO if he is playing at his best.

The tennis that is played today by top 4 far far exceeds anything that Marat or his rivals such as Hewitt, etc ever were capable of. If you think otherwise, please put the crack pipe down.
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Well, the OP did say "peak". And peak safin would beat peak nadal on hardcourts everytime.

That said, "peak vs. peak" discussions are pretty pointless.

If Nadal and Safin "just played", Nadal would probably win most every time. The current record is 2-0 in favor of Nadal, both matches played on hardcourt.

Even a guy like Robredo or Santoro has a winning record against Safin (even on hard courts).
nadal AO 09? not sure he would've certainly lost to peak safin. firstly safins BH isnt djokos BH, at least not on defense. secondly, its not for definite, even peak of peaks safin would've had as much in the tank to hang with nadal for as long as nadal could probably make him, esp not on slow HC. sure, overall it goes to (peak) safin, but nadal is no gimp as some injured fans would like to think, thats all Im saying.
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Speaking as a big Safin fan of the past, I say Nadal will dominate 3 out of 4 (RG, W, US Open) and Marat may have a chance at AO if he is playing at his best.

The tennis that is played today by top 4 far far exceeds anything that Marat or his rivals such as Hewitt, etc ever were capable of. If you think otherwise, please put the crack pipe down.
I don't know. Sampras was still pretty good on US Open surface in 2000. Agassi didn't look bad to me in 2004. Federer was no slouch in 2005.

I have these matches on DVD and have seen them all quite recently. It looks pretty high quality to me.
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