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Old 02-17-2012, 06:07 AM   #31
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well, BH doesn't seem to have a problem. he probly feels right at home considering he was raised in northern ireland...
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You get more desperate every day. Constantly going off on worn-out tangents.
I'm still a huge fan of the bickering.

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Here's another picture of an Israeli soldier, this time actually firing on a Palestinian child.

Squeamish posters: be warned, it's extremely disturbing, and you may wish to leave now.


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''Caveat emptor'' would be a suitable warning for them.

I don't think I am wilLIN to LINger in this thread any more, and will take my taLINts to the PaLINstinian thread.
Wrong thread mate.

I didn't know the pic was fake.
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:34 AM   #32
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all trolling aside, i'll ask you an honest question: what's your opinion on the palestinian-israeli conflict?
I'll give you the terse version (a more involved one would require a good-faith interlocutor).

It's horrible, it's complicated, it's highly charged, and there is blame (to greater or lesser extents) on both sides.

However, until I am a thoroughgoing expert on the subject (I make no such pretensions), I have no wish to join the legions of armchair foreign policy experts who seek to do little more than demonize the objects of their a priori bias (by, say, carelessly fishing out fake pictures that make the target look bad, with no consideration given to their veracity).

You would be well-advised to adopt a similarly cautious way of thinking, but that is not the way of today's younger generation.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:10 PM   #33
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I'll give you the terse version (a more involved one would require a good-faith interlocutor).

It's horrible, it's complicated, it's highly charged, and there is blame (to greater or lesser extents) on both sides.

However, until I am a thoroughgoing expert on the subject (I make no such pretensions), I have no wish to join the legions of armchair foreign policy experts who seek to do little more than demonize the objects of their a priori bias (by, say, carelessly fishing out fake pictures that make the target look bad, with no consideration given to their veracity).

You would be well-advised to adopt a similarly cautious way of thinking, but that is not the way of today's younger generation.
and that is not to say anything of real content? you and i are virtually from the same generation btw. however, i suppose it should be accounted that ideas among generations vary from culture to culture. not every country's generation thinks like, say, the americans think so i don't think there is much of a point in considering that younger generations accross different nations must have similar culutural traits.

as for the conflict, believe me, i've heard and read stories from both sides. in that regard, without claiming to be an expert or much less than that, i've been reading about this for this for a few years now. but that does matter? you have made up your mind already. your idea that my conceptions are based on bias merely because the focus of my protest is primarely on one side only is by itself a biased way of looking at things. judging that someone's opinion is wrong purely because it is expressed with aggressive words is akin to judging a book's worth purely by it's front cover.

last but not least, i was somewhat ashamed over that picture in the second page. ergo, it was the first time i've given any type of apologies on these boards.
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''My opinion of Christian zionists? They're scum. But don't tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.'' Benjamin Netanyahu
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:24 PM   #35
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Who needs enemies when they (the Christian zionists) have friends like that.

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''My opinion of Christian zionists? They're scum. But don't tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.'' Benjamin Netanyahu
We have already seen the result of false pics in this thread. Now comes a quote with no source. Racist blogs are the only place on the Internet where I could find this supposed quote even mentioned. Is that where you spend your time?
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Big Ben was hardly going to say that in front of a camera, was he? The whole anti zionist = anti jewish narrative is wearing a little thin. I will now get back to reading my favourite blog (which has a jewish man as an author).
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So you admit you are a gullible useful idiot of the crazy left?
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So you admit you are a gullible useful idiot of the crazy left?
I don't remember doing that.
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It was a question.

But don't worry about it. If you post quotes here and have no idea where they came from, I will draw my own conclusions. No, he didn't have to say it in front of a camera, but there must be some record of him actually saying it, no? Any reasonable person would expect that.
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Not having categorical confirmation of a quote does not mean it was not said. I believe it was. You obviously don't.
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Not having categorical confirmation of a quote does not mean it was not said. I believe it was. You obviously don't.
But where did you first hear of this quote?
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http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...WauBAJYV2s840w Scroll down. Only picked up on it recently.
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"My opinion of non-Muslim Palestinian sympathizers? They're scum. But don't tell them that, we need all the useful idiots we can get right now." Mahmoud Abbas.
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Why do you think I care for the palestinian leadership?
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