View Poll Results: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
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02-14-2012, 03:18 PM
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#31
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
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Originally Posted by LawrenceOfTennis
Inconsistency. He has bigger pure talent than top 4 except for Federer.
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Really? I was always interested in one thing,how to measure "pure talent"? Is there some sort of special Scale for that?
I can assure you that Troicki has more pure talent than Murray or Tsonga than Nadal. Can you prove otherwise? 
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02-14-2012, 03:20 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
It's funny people say he's not good enough.
He's produced far more top 4 performances than many other players outside the top 4 for the last few years. I mean this is a guy who broke into the top 10 a few years back without even having a mental side, that's talent alone. 
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02-14-2012, 03:35 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
too many things, thanx God
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02-14-2012, 03:36 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
By saying Volleying skills whom are you guys comparing Berdych's Volleying skills? I do not think any of the Top 4 has any exceptional Volleying skills either. Neither of the Top 4 do come to the Net that often. So what makes Berdych's Volleying skills Bad. Its that he followed a game pattern in which he needed to come to the Net More often than just camping at the Baseline like the Top 4 are doing at the moment. So obviously with that Game pattern he is taking much larger risks and with that larger risk he made a lot of volleying Errors.He tried a game pattern which the Top 4 didnt and never tried at all. So how can anyone say that his Volleying Skills are bad when the people whome he has been compared against never adopted that strategy at all.
Its plain Ignorance.
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02-14-2012, 03:54 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
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Originally Posted by Sophocles
His volleying isn't actually that bad by today's standards, even though it was crap against Nadal. He's too error-prone, too slow, too choking, has an attackable 2nd serve, & lacks the X-factor, the creativity or vision, to make up for these deficiencies.
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When a person has a weakness that weakness is normally revealed during times of great distress. Berdych's volleying does not hold up during important moments in big matches. The same goes for the Murray second serve and the Federer backhand. Berdych has reached a major final and has done pretty well unlike a certain Gasquet. I doubt Berdych can achieve much more when you look at the guys ahead of him.
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02-14-2012, 04:14 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
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Originally Posted by Certinfy
It's funny people say he's not good enough.
He's produced far more top 4 performances than many other players outside the top 4 for the last few years. I mean this is a guy who broke into the top 10 a few years back without even having a mental side, that's talent alone. 
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02-14-2012, 04:16 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
top 5.
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02-14-2012, 04:23 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
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Originally Posted by Sophocles
His volleying isn't actually that bad by today's standards, even though it was crap against Nadal. He's too error-prone, too slow, too choking, has an attackable 2nd serve, & lacks the X-factor, the creativity or vision, to make up for these deficiencies.
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He is one of the most dangerous players around. With some luck he would have won over Nadal easily in the AO.
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02-14-2012, 04:32 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
If he can't handle single handed mug backhand of Federer he doesn't really deserve to be top4.....all modern players can easily
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02-14-2012, 04:33 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
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Originally Posted by Shinoj
He is one of the most dangerous players around. With some luck he would have won over Nadal easily in the AO.
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luck LOL
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02-14-2012, 04:39 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
His own mind.
AO 09, he had Fed on the ropes, but couldn't close. Missed 1st serves at crucial times, played passively, made errors.
Wibmledon 2010 Final vs. Nadal, many times he had break points, often he couldn't even get Rafa's 2nd serve back into play.
And now AO 2012 QF, missed a volley that would have given him 2 sets to love, afterwards, physically was dominated by Rafa the last 2 sets.
So, mental strength, handling nerves, getting 1st serves into play at big points, and physically becoming even more of a beast.
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02-14-2012, 04:40 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
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Originally Posted by Clay Death
3 things:
1. lack of consistency
2. lack of optimal movement
3. lack of a more dominating serve
he can compensate for some of his deficiencies if he can develop a far more dominating serve. that goes a long way.
top players move better and they are simply more consistent. he is also terrified of the net. no harm in going forward and giving them different looks. you should be able to go in when you get or create those opportunities.
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Now this is a rare sight. A pretty much perfect answer right off the bat.
Maybe toss in "mental strength". He doesn't quite seem to believe that he "should" be winning the big matches against the big boys. Unlike the big boys that just simply believe they should win pretty much all the time.
Berdych can also have surprising losses against lower ranked players. Something that you rarely if ever see from the top 3 (and even the top 4, except when Murray is sulking, which hopefully won't happen anymore).
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02-14-2012, 04:43 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
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If he can't handle single handed mug backhand of Federer he doesn't really deserve to be top4.....all modern players can easily
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02-14-2012, 04:47 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
He isn't in the top 4 because the top 4 are in the top 4. He's nowhere near their level, even at his best. The current #4, Murray, is better than him. Therefore, he won't get into the top 4 when the lowet ranked player is better than him.
He can definitely be the #5 consistently though if he plays with more consistency.
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02-14-2012, 04:48 PM
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Re: What is stopping Berdych from becoming a Top 4?
Tsonga is better anyway.
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