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Old 02-11-2012, 01:14 PM   #226
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I don't see a lot of bitter fedfans around, but some bitter anti fed fans, who are not willing to discuss, but only giving proof of their constant frustration. They are that frustrated because without doubt, there has never been a player, who was given so much respect from the public. There was never a player with a bigger fanbase. There was hardly a player with better technique, or with such elegance. And after all he is also respected highly by his peers. Sure this is bad to accept from the anti fed fans, it is easy to understand.
Maybe Federer is done (or not), but most of his records will remain. His fair on court behaviour will hopefully give an example for the younger generation.
He surely is not a player, who will be forgotten as soon as he hangs up the racket.
Everybody said the same about Connors, Agassi, Sampras...goat cheese is just another player, he has nothing special
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Everybody said the same about Connors, Agassi, Sampras...goat cheese is just another player, he has nothing special
For someone, who is blind or not willing to see, then yes. But let me say this. Even if he is not the goat, he is a bit more special than your fave, no?
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Old 02-11-2012, 01:43 PM   #228
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Federer really wasn't born for Davis Cup it seems.
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wtf federer

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Old 02-11-2012, 03:07 PM   #231
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Big John jinxed Federer calling him an RG legend.
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Federer really wasn't born for Davis Cup it seems.
wasn't born in the right country would be more accurate
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well. this might be the most embarrassing loss in Federer's career. Lost to all serve mug on CLAY... such a disgrace.
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well. this might be the most embarrassing loss in Federer's career. Lost to all serve mug on CLAY... such a disgrace.
Losing to Nadal at Wimbledon was more embarrassing by a mile.
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Old 02-11-2012, 03:37 PM   #235
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wasn't born in the right country would be more accurate
So you think Carl Uwe-Steeb was a stronger Davis Cup teammate than Wawarinka?

Becker won twice against against power house Sweden who fielded Wilander, Edberg and Anders Jarryd. Becker’s teammates were Eric Jalen and Carl-Uwe Steeb..

Before that in 1985, Germany reached the final against Sweden and Becker had as his teammates Michael Westphal and Andreas Mauer.


It was extremely hard on Becker and probably detracted from his singles results, and Becker opted out of DC for a couple of years to pursue his goal of becoming the top ranked player. I don’t say that Fed needs to be a DC warrior, but I think if he really wanted to, he could have carried Switzerland to at least a DC final — especially in the years 2003 − 2007.
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It really makes me wonder how Federer, the last man to play such graceful tennis, has so many haters. You aren't really a fan of tennis if you hate his game.
Fans like you with their noses in the air are one reason why Federer has haters.
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Fans like you with their noses in the air are one reason why Federer has haters.
you are supporting the players which fans no matter how deluded and annoying they are can't be the main reason of hatred
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From what I saw it looked like the bounce was high on that court. I don't understand why they would pick a high bouncing court given what can happen with Federer's backhand. I suppose they figured the bounce wouldn't matter given the US players' styles, but it still seems like a bad move. I would think they would go for the lowest bouncing court possible so that Federer can hit all his backhands in the strike zone, in which case he's still nearly unbeatable.
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From what I saw it looked like the bounce was high on that court. I don't understand why they would pick a high bouncing court given what can happen with Federer's backhand. I suppose they figured the bounce wouldn't matter given the US players' styles, but it still seems like a bad move. I would think they would go for the lowest bouncing court possible so that Federer can hit all his backhands in the strike zone, in which case he's still nearly unbeatable.
The U.S. commenters were saying the court was so bad with poor bounces that it gave the U.S. an advantage. I’m not sure how that works exactly. Supposedly, this is something Mardy also noted.

I think one of the reasons for the high bounce is also the altitude, although not particularly high, it’s 2,000 feet.
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:19 AM   #240
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Found little highlight video, it isnt much, few points only

http://youtu.be/2MUl_JHuVqg

About bad bounces. How it works: player who stays on baseline is more vulnerable to bad bounces. Player, who comes to the net on first opportunity, volleys a lot and serves from the tree has advantage. My guess is Isner and Fish are players, who are eager to come to the net, even on clay. And you can play well on clay without grinding 30 stroke rallies on baseline. Edberg and Mac were in RG final with S&V and it was dead slow, super high bounce "old" clay...
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