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Old 02-16-2012, 11:38 PM   #46
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Just throw in some Chinese music, nobody will notice

This one's rather traditional

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Always loved the first 30 secs or so of this.

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One of my faves in terms of pure melodious piano-overkill.

Thanks , but all these are too modern. I was thinking something, you know, purer?

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I'm sure you'll regret you asked Anyway, here's one of the classical styles(called Carnatic) The other one's Hindustani which I'll post a bit later.

This is awesome. That's sort of exactly what I was looking to hear, love it. If you have more things along that line, post please!

Also maybe traditional Indian dance, if anyone here is into it? I remember seeing short scenes of it in documentaries years ago, I think it was some sort of a religion-related or interpretative/story-telling dance? It looked gorgeous.
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I was randomly clicking through suggestions from that video, and this came along:





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My knowledge of SA music is exactly nil so I can't contribute anything to this thread.
If you take requests, though, I'd be happy to be annoying and pester you in the know about it! I'd love to see some really traditional music, as old as possible. Something that would fit the etno music genre label, basically.



This is so beautiful. I had this on in the background while I rewatched the cute owls video. Sublime experience.
Maya - good to see you here As you know, my knowledge of Indian classical/folk music is rather pitiful, but I will try to post something if I can ! I am pretty sure Hema is more knowledgeable in that regard ( well, the general consensus in MTF is that she is omniscient ) BTW, our thread starter Sam the FedGOat has meanwhile slithered off into the unknown, shirking his thread starter duties !
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This is awesome. That's sort of exactly what I was looking to hear, love it. If you have more things along that line, post please!
Glad you liked it Here's a couple of videos. And here's an article which explains the basic differences between western and indian classical.

http://www.itcsra.org/sra_faq_index.html





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Also maybe traditional Indian dance, if anyone here is into it? I remember seeing short scenes of it in documentaries years ago, I think it was some sort of a religion-related or interpretative/story-telling dance? It looked gorgeous.
This is from a movie but it showcases the dance nicely( not exactly a song but vedic chanting)



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That instrument is called Veena. One of my favorites
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Maya - good to see you here As you know, my knowledge of Indian classical/folk music is rather pitiful, but I will try to post something if I can ! I am pretty sure Hema is more knowledgeable in that regard ( well, the general consensus in MTF is that she is omniscient )
*humble*

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I think he's lost in his mathematical world. We need him for the party music
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This is such a great song in Jodha Akbar - all songs in the movie were fantastic ! Would be nice to see a translation of this one ( wink @ Hema) - I don't think I will be able to translate some of the Urdu words..

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Maya - good to see you here As you know, my knowledge of Indian classical/folk music is rather pitiful, but I will try to post something if I can ! I am pretty sure Hema is more knowledgeable in that regard ( well, the general consensus in MTF is that she is omniscient )
She'll try to humble out of it, but it is the general sentiment, I agree.
Thank you for the welcome , I'm enjoying this Indian Music 101 lesson here.

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Glad you liked it Here's a couple of videos. And here's an article which explains the basic differences between western and indian classical.

http://www.itcsra.org/sra_faq_index.html



Thank you , both great... songs? compositions? I assume since it's classical I should call them compositions?

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This is from a movie but it showcases the dance nicely( not exactly a song but vedic chanting)

Wow, this is absolutely beautiful.
(for the purposes of appreciation, I'm just gonna ignore the creepy guy in the background )
If you have more, please post, I could watch hours of this.
Is this something that's only taught in narrow professional circles or are there casual lessons? If I were to, say, be in India for a month, could I take lessons in this in any larger city?

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That instrument is called Veena. One of my favorites
It's so guitar-like, but looks much more complicated, pretty impressive play from the guy.
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This is from a movie but it showcases the dance nicely( not exactly a song but vedic chanting)

Interesting.. This reminds me of an old video I saw of my mum dancing similarly to this. That dance was called Bharathanatyam If I remember correctly. It was kinda synchro with someone else, like this-




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Is this something that's only taught in narrow professional circles or are there casual lessons? If I were to, say, be in India for a month, could I take lessons in this in any larger city?
Traditionally girls were taught and practiced these dances at a really young age (kinda like with Tennis) since it takes years to master even the basics. Nowadays there are professional tutors in India and a few other South Asian countries who could give you a crash course if you can find them

There's also this woman and her vids if you can't be bothered with finding them

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This is such a great song in Jodha Akbar - all songs in the movie were fantastic ! Would be nice to see a translation of this one ( wink @ Hema) - I don't think I will be able to translate some of the Urdu words..
That Urdu is too difficult for me as well especially the first few lines but google is my friend so I'll try to find a dictionary online

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Thank you , both great... songs? compositions? I assume since it's classical I should call them compositions?
Yes, I think they should be called compositions

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(for the purposes of appreciation, I'm just gonna ignore the creepy guy in the background )
Don't want to spoil it further but she marries that creepy dude in the end

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Wow, this is absolutely beautiful.
If you have more, please post, I could watch hours of this.
I have bookmarked a few dances I liked. I'll post them a bit later.

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Is this something that's only taught in narrow professional circles or are there casual lessons? If I were to, say, be in India for a month, could I take lessons in this in any larger city?
Like sham said, it is taught everywhere in India(and any other country with large Indian populations) but in general, it is not taught for a month(unless it is just for fun). It is usually more like ballet(years and years of practice).

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It's so guitar-like, but looks much more complicated, pretty impressive play from the guy.
To me, it sounds like some weird mix of guitar and cello.

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Interesting.. This reminds me of an old video I saw of my mum dancing similarly to this. That dance was called Bharathanatyam If I remember correctly. It was kinda synchro with someone else, like this-
Interesting. Now I know which parent you derive your brownness from and a dancer to top it


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There's also this woman and her vids if you can't be bothered with finding them
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Interesting.. This reminds me of an old video I saw of my mum dancing similarly to this. That dance was called Bharathanatyam If I remember correctly. It was kinda synchro with someone else, like this-


Dancing in pairs in this kind of synch has always impressed me, great video. Which style did your mom dance?

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Traditionally girls were taught and practiced these dances at a really young age (kinda like with Tennis) since it takes years to master even the basics. Nowadays there are professional tutors in India and a few other South Asian countries who could give you a crash course if you can find them

There's also this woman and her vids if you can't be bothered with finding them

It does look really really complex, even the simplest forms strike me as very multilayered, I figured as much. (about the 10+ years of studying) I was just curious whether or not it would even be possible to get some really basic lessons to understand it better, as much as you could pack into 10, 15 lessons.

Thank you for the instructional video, she seems amazing. I'll look for more of it.
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That Urdu is too difficult for me as well especially the first few lines but google is my friend so I'll try to find a dictionary online
Yeah, this is GOAT level Urdu. I hope you don't spend too much time on it because of my "request" - I am sure there are translations online already !

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(for the purposes of appreciation, I'm just gonna ignore the creepy guy in the background )
He is just appreciating the dance moves

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Interesting.. This reminds me of an old video I saw of my mum dancing similarly to this. That dance was called Bharathanatyam If I remember correctly. It was kinda synchro with someone else, like this-
My aunt is also a teacher of BharatNatyam- it is the pre-eminent classical dance form from Southern India. I remember attending a lot of BharatNatyam performances of my aunt's students as a kid and teenager, and being bored out of my mind

Age has brought more appreciation and "refinement" in my attitude towards Indian classical dance
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Dancing in pairs in this kind of synch has always impressed me, great video. Which style did your mom dance?
Just pure classical. None of this new fangled semi-classical twirling and hopping. (textbook description methinks)

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We have some virtuoso multi-quoting going on in this thread !
I feel like the Federer 2004 of Multi-Quoting at the moment.

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My aunt is also a teacher of BharatNatyam- it is the pre-eminent classical dance form from Southern India. I remember attending a lot of BharatNatyam performances of my aunt's students as a kid and teenager, and being bored out of my mind

Age has brought more appreciation and "refinement" in my attitude towards Indian classical dance
I feel you bro, and I still haven't gained that refinement. To be honest, if I hadn't felt compelled to watch all the vids my Mum left behind I'd have collapsed in a heap watching that.
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Yeah, this is GOAT level Urdu. I hope you don't spend too much time on it because of my "request" - I am sure there are translations online already !
I found a good translation for you

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It is said that this is a celebration of spring
but love is distressed to see
that in the garden, the fragrance is shying away from the flowers.
There is a hidden sorrow in the curtain of the happy air.

The slow sleepy flow of time has
silenced much of the sorrow here
and many unsaid things are lost in the heart.

How does one say what troubles them so.
I wonder this now
how does one actually tell you that they are not in love with you?
We journey through life together,
but there exists a distance between us
like that of the two banks of a river that never meet.

We are together, yet we are not.
This pain of separation is unacceptable to me.
There is, as it were, a wall of glass divides us.

The slow sleepy flow of time has
quietened much of the sorrow here
and many unsaid things are lost in the heart.

The tune that I thought I would hear
was the song that my heart chose.
But what is this tune that fate has chosen for me to hear instead?

If it can be said that I am sad,
truth is she is not happy there either.
It is as if our encounters are blended with loneliness.

We meet but we do not unite
The flower blooms but doesn’t blossom.
When I look around I see that it is spring but there is an autumn in my heart.
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I feel you bro, and I still haven't gained that refinement. To be honest, if I hadn't felt compelled to watch all the vids my Mum left behind I'd have collapsed in a heap watching that.
I can feel the emotion flowing through these posts. I am much more fond of classical music than dance. But I can appreciate dance sometimes (a lot depends on the dancer)
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Some good synchro in this.

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Danke ! Wah Wah

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Don't worry about us- all this quite educational for me too, so keep these videos coming. There is something moving and edifying about introducing one's arts/culture to a curious and open-minded outsider such as Maya - in some ways it makes me appreciate it better.
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True. This Maya is a gem . But I also want to preserve her open-mindedness and not bombard her with stuff just because she asked( not as if I haven't done that already
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