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Old 02-09-2012, 10:24 AM   #46
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The French media should not insinuate things unless they can substantiate that suspicion

Suspecting someone of wrongdoing does not justify witch-hunting them BEFORE evidence is presented
everything the French serious media have said was always highly documented (contrary to what some Americans think about Armstrong case, and maybe now the Spaniards, because the French documents were not presented to them), although you should know that it's often hard to definitely "prove" that someone is a doper : I think that the media in the world often talk about suspicious facts in politics and many other topics, even when there's no definite judiciary evidence, remember Strauss-Kahn ? it's been talked about a lot in France and in the USA and in many other countries, he has not had any sentence, even not any trial, yet.

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Saying the French have a 'revolutionary culture' or 'suspicious' nature is not an explanation for their behaviour
I didn't speak of the French media here, this sentence was about the "public opinion" which is clearly different in France from what it is in Spain and the USA (and also in Switzerland )
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:05 PM   #47
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The French are too arrogant they can't stand having Spain dominate the sports while they're second rate, so the only reason that makes sense to them is that Spain must be cheating in some way.

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Old 02-09-2012, 01:34 PM   #49
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Err.. wasn't the original video supposed to be a joke and not a serious allegation? Why so serious?

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Old 02-09-2012, 04:55 PM   #51
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OMG the Spanish Foreign Minister made an intervention about the video at the European Commission and the Spanish ambassador in France will write an official letter, another letter will be sent to the French Sports Minister (who is a former French multiple olympic champion in judo who is himself depicted as a complete idiot by the Guignols ) :


http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2012/02/09/masdeporte/1328803394.html




Surely Sarkozy has more to complain about the Guignols than the Spaniards

This is ridiculous

Fortunately Nadal himself is more clever than the Spanish authorities.
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There is some measure of free speech in Europe, even when it concerns dopes?
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There is some measure of free speech in Europe, even when it concerns dopes?
free speech ? it's a joke !

Remember everyone in Europe protested when the Muslims felt insulted by Mohammed's caricatures ? I mean is it worse and I don't realize ?

This is completely out of context

This is ridiculous, I can't believe that

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Says a french person Identity crisis,no?
you don't know the French well enough : they are their worst enemies
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The producer of the show says it's the oddest complaint they've ever faced (this show has been displayed in France for more than 20 years every weekday), the French sportsmen (esp Virenque who was harshly atacked ) never complained and even laughed at the show. He can't believe that : it's as if they had violated a "sacred cow". And of course they will keep on because it's funny :

http://www.tele-2-semaines.fr/conten...nt-a-exploiter

They just do that for fun
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Yup, the people Les Guignols make the most fun of are all French... it's a great show, really (the Nadal clip with the car wasn't funny though, but 9 out of 10 times they are awesome)...
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Spanish have zero sense of humour: that's the proof of a decadent country.
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Spanish have zero sense of humour: that's the proof of a decadent country.
this goes too far (be careful about the rules on the site, I'm not sure if they allow that),

but the Spanish government, well, has a strange attitude, I must say.

I thought the French president was strange, but well it seems it's the whole political world which gets very strange in modern days (think about the Republican candidates in the USA it's often said that the American society is in advance 20 years comparing to us)
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Spanish tennis Federation is stupid to make a fuzz about it. Only puts more attention on the matter. + smells guilt. Innocent guys could shrug it off. The more hurt they seem the more you wonder if there is some truth in it
I don't know whether it's true or not, obviously there are athletes of most nationalities who are doping, but I do agree that bringing attention to it, especially the athletes (like this Nike video JLH posted ) is not the best way to go about it.

BTW, can't believe they didn't mention Casillas in that ad, the Dutch would be world champions thanks to two goals from Robben if it weren't for Casillas.
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