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Old 02-05-2012, 05:11 PM   #46
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To balance the discussion, Marijuana and MDMA have never been solidly proved to do any harm to your physical health. Mental health can be a different story.

For example alcohol and tobacco harm your physical health more than Marijuana does.
You keep telling yourself that. it's not true, unfortunately.

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Sensible, limited, recreational use of drugs doesn't have to mean one is per sé 'fucking up his/her life'. Just like one can of beer won't harm you all that much, smoking a joint once in while doesn't either.
I agree that is the case with some drugs such as cannabis. But there is no such thing as a "sensible, limited, recreational" use of heroin for example..

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I used to think this way. But I've seen too much that leaves me shaking my head. It gives me no joy to say it, but education doesn't work.

You know how many young people end up drugged out of their minds or dead?? Did they ALL have bad parents who didn't talk to them about the dangers? Come on. I've seen it happen to people who had great parents.

As I'm typing this, someone in a first-world country is heading out to the club in hopes of getting lucky with a stranger. And they aren't bringing any condoms with them. Now unless you've been living under a rock for 25 years, you know about AIDS (not to mention unwanted pregnancy). They know; they just choose to disregard.

People have unprecedented amounts of information at their fingertips, yet they are now even eating themselves into obesity, disease and death (with legal and healthy substances... like food!).

George Burns smoked for 80 years and lived to be 100. Steven Tyler snorted half of Colombia in the 70s and 80s and he lived.
It won't happen to me. It won't happen to me.


There is no education against this attitude.
I agree with kat. I am a medical student, we are educated people who have studied the issue many times in many different subjects, we are as informed as it gets, and yet you would be surprised to find out how many of us use drugs in a non-sensible and recreational way.
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:28 AM   #47
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I enjoy marijuana but there is always a risk of using it because it is illegal. I'm a pretty frequent user and I don't think it's had any adverse side effects on me because I have a vaporizer for health reasons and I try not to use it if I have a busy schedule. I think it is a dangerous drug because I have seen other college students have their grades drop significantly because of careless use. Nevertheless, the drug itself is relatively harmless, compared to something like alcohol, so I think the illegal status is silly.

Kratom has been another go to drug for me lately. This one is legal, but I try to limit it because it has a physically addictive aspect. It also kills my apatite and I can't sleep while high on it.

Honestly, every drug has some bad aspects but I don't think that should mean the government should throw huge resources at trying to control them, especially if the drug is non addictive or doesn't have a fatal dose.
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I'm Singaporean. We have some of the strictest and harshest anti-drugs laws in the world with the mandatory death penalty in place for trafficking. While I vehemently oppose the death penalty and the mandatory death penalty for trafficking, I can't complain about the mostly drug-free society that I live in. From my experience, the biggest worry that parents have in general is whether their son would take up smoking in the army (mandatory national service here for boys) - a rather trivial concern compared to other countries where drugs are more easily available. Call me insufferably straight-edged if you must (I would whole-heartedly agree actually); but I am completely unsympathetic to the mostly-Western view on drugs, that 1) it's okay in small doses as long as it doesn't harm the user; and 2) it should be legalised to control distribution. In fact, if I had it my way, I'd ban the living shit out of cigarettes as well.

I don't appreciate a lot of things about my country but I am definitely thankful to live in a relatively drug-free society.
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You keep telling yourself that. it's not true, unfortunately.
Isn't it?

Weed is a natural herb. It doesnt do anything to your physical health.

E doesnt either. The spinal fluid stuff is a myth.

And I dont even do either.
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Isn't it?

Weed is a natural herb. It doesnt do anything to your physical health.

E doesnt either. The spinal fluid stuff is a myth.

And I dont even do either.
Cannabis:

- it does cause lung cancer and other respiratory tract cancers (larynx, etc...)
- causes or worsens some lung diseases such as chronic bonchitis
- damages memory and concentration
- testicular atrophy and impotence
- it has also been linked to testicle cancer (but investigation is still going on to prove this, I think)

This is what I know.
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You should stick to topics you're an expert in 2003 ie. moustaches, sex and women.
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- it does cause lung cancer and other respiratory tract cancers (larynx, etc...)
- causes or worsens some lung diseases such as chronic bonchitis
- damages memory and concentration
- testicular atrophy and impotence
- it has also been linked to testicle cancer (but investigation is still going on to prove this, I think)

This is what I know.
Tobacco has the same kind of effects. And alcohol side effects are way worse, check WHO's reviews on the matter.
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Tobacco has the same kind of effects. And alcohol side effects are way worse, check WHO's reviews on the matter.
I know! I'm not saying otherwise. I actually believe cannabis should be legalized. I was just letting him know that unlike what he believed, cannabis can hurt your body if you don't know how to use it.
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People can't be trusted to take care of themselves. Legalize drugs and they will of course get easier to obtain, which I think will eventually lead to more people becoming addicted and more lives ruined. I for one don't share this "if people want to destroy themselves, then let them"-attitude. (Besides, if a person becomes an addict, there is seldom only 1 person who suffers.)
so we need whom to?

All drugs should be legal. State's role should be limited to adequate regulation, as it currently does with alcohol and tobaco, and make sure proper information is available, specially for youngsters.

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Alright, some people can't be trusted to take care of themselves.
I take it you aren't among those... so you decide for the less lucky others.

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What? Of course it has. Perhaps not completely but certainly to a certain degree. You might have a point in a scenario where a person really is HELL-bent on getting the stuff in question, but we're talking ordinary folk here. If something is difficult to obtain, then a lot of curious people will consider it not worth the trouble.
You may call me patronizing but this is borderline naive. People aren't smart/mature enough, especially not when there's peer pressure involved.
But again, you surely are...
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Pot should be legalised. As for the others, well heroin I can't stand but it's not going to go away. I'd rather it was done with clean needles and injecting rooms under supervision.
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- it does cause lung cancer and other respiratory tract cancers (larynx, etc...)
- causes or worsens some lung diseases such as chronic bonchitis
- damages memory and concentration
- testicular atrophy and impotence
- it has also been linked to testicle cancer (but investigation is still going on to prove this, I think)

This is what I know.
Only some of these are effects of marijuana use, the rest are attributed solely to smoking the plant because you are inhaling all of the harmful products of the combustion cycle. THC or other cannabinoids may be pretty safe if they are not taken in by burning the plant, although research is lacking. Smoking anything is bad for the lungs and very seldom do I smoke marijuana anymore because of this danger.
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Cannabis:

- it does cause lung cancer and other respiratory tract cancers (larynx, etc...)
- causes or worsens some lung diseases such as chronic bonchitis
- damages memory and concentration
- testicular atrophy and impotence
- it has also been linked to testicle cancer (but investigation is still going on to prove this, I think)

This is what I know.
Please...maybe if you smoke joints like they are cigarettes. Bigger problem then would be the thousands of dollars you are spending.
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Pot should be legalised. As for the others, well heroin I can't stand but it's not going to go away. I'd rather it was done with clean needles and injecting rooms under supervision.
Heroin is very tricky. I think it's the one drug I'm not sure where I stand on. Legal or illegal, I'm open for arguments either side.
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