View Poll Results: Vote for speeding up the courts or against it!
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Speed up the courts
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Leave them as they are
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12-12-2011, 12:11 AM
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by rocketassist
Indian Wells and Miami in particular are the worst culprits. They're slower than most clay courts, and long points there are just utter joint killers. Speed them up for christ's sake.
I mean Djokovic didn't compete in Monte Carlo after them.
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That Miami match and especially that USO match fucking killed both Nadal and Djokovic this season. Maybe not Madrid 09 SF levels, but still.
Compared to the USO and Miami this year, their Wimbledon final was like a mid-90's Euro carpet indoor event 
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12-12-2011, 07:10 PM
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#212
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by MalwareDie
..... Do you have reading problems? rocketassist clearly thinks that most surfaces need to be faster (aside from clay), and you agreeing with topspindoctor pretty much means that you disagree with rocketassist because topspindoctor wants everything slower.
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Topspindoctor did not say that he wants everything slower and nor did I say that Rocketassist wants everything faster, I was just asking him a question. I was agreeing with Topspindoctor in disagreeing with the OP who said the courts in general should be speed up.
Ultimately, rocketassist and I are having the same opinion (variety is good for the game) so there is not much we are disagreeing on... |
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12-12-2011, 07:16 PM
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#213
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Re: Speed up the Courts
You sure you want that? I hope the Nole and Rafa fans wouldn't. They would lose their year round dominance for sure.  |
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12-12-2011, 07:26 PM
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#214
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by SetSampras
You sure you want that? I hope the Nole and Rafa fans wouldn't. They would lose their year round dominance for sure. |
I think that most big tournaments should be played on fair medium-paced-hardcourts which is already the case (AO, IW, Miami, Canadian Open). The indoor tournaments after USO like Paris and WTF can be played on fast HC or carpet because I don't care much if Rafole win there or not  |
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12-12-2011, 07:49 PM
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#215
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Re: Speed up the Courts
IW and Miami fair medium-paced harcourts??!? You are clearly and above any doubt a clown of galactic proportions.
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12-12-2011, 07:56 PM
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#216
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by Looner
IW and Miami fair medium-paced harcourts??!? You are clearly and above any doubt a clown of galactic proportions.
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12-12-2011, 07:59 PM
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#217
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Re: Speed up the Courts
I'm not sure why Wimbledon and U.S. Open were slowed down a bit?
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12-12-2011, 08:14 PM
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#218
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by shiaben
I'm not sure why Wimbledon and U.S. Open were slowed down a bit?
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I heard it was just easier to keep up the maintenance on the grass when they began sodding it to Mars. |
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12-12-2011, 08:18 PM
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#219
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by Matt01
I think that most big tournaments should be played on fair medium-paced-hardcourts which is already the case (AO, IW, Miami, Canadian Open). The indoor tournaments after USO like Paris and WTF can be played on fast HC or carpet because I don't care much if Rafole win there or not |
Exactly you're a fanboy who just wants what's best for your beloved favourites.
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12-12-2011, 08:26 PM
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by rocketassist
Exactly you're a fanboy who just wants what's best for your beloved favourites.
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And you are a hater and wants what's worst for them (Rafole).  |
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12-12-2011, 08:34 PM
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by SetSampras
I heard it was just easier to keep up the maintenance on the grass when they began sodding it to Mars.
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That was just a minor reason.
The far more important reason was that there appeared to be a 'major opinion' that grass court tennis got too 'boring' (whether that was indeed the case is a matter of personal opinion), as it was being completely dominated by big hitting servers' style during the 1990's - aka the Ivanišević, Kraijeck, Sampras et al.-style of most dominant players at that time.
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Exactly you're a fanboy who just wants what's best for your beloved favourites.
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As much as I might not agree with Matt01, there's no need for personal attacks I think. 
The major problem right now is the lack of diversity.
Speed up the HC's, slow down the major clay tournaments, and bloody ALLOW for diversity in playing styles again, which has been totally absent the past decade or so.
Oh, and while we're at it, bring back carpet as well. |
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12-12-2011, 08:58 PM
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by Matt01
I think that most big tournaments should be played on fair medium-paced-hardcourts which is already the case (AO, IW, Miami, Canadian Open)
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 The description of medium pace is way off for slow tournaments like the two US MS series tournaments and the AO. |
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12-12-2011, 09:12 PM
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#223
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Re: Speed up the Courts
Today's tennis is shit. No variaty = dead of tennis. Simple as that.
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12-12-2011, 09:13 PM
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#224
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by MalwareDie
The description of medium pace is way off for slow tournaments like the two US MS series tournaments and the AO. |
The AO actually has been sped up since it changed from Rebound to Plexi so I don't know what you are talking about...
And Cincy is faster than medium pace. |
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12-12-2011, 10:13 PM
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#225
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Re: Speed up the Courts
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Originally Posted by Matt01
And you are a hater and wants what's worst for them (Rafole). |
Yeah slower clay courts would hinder them.
Karin, it's not a personal attack, it's pulling up someone who is only interested in what benefits his favourite players instead of what would actually benefit the sport itself. They're the types the ATP cater to, the top players and their sycophants. That's why we'll never see any change.
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