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Old 01-31-2012, 01:16 AM   #31
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This is incorrect. The 2006-10 period you choose is arbitrary. Nadal finally took over the No. 1 spot in 2008, having reached No. 2 in 2005. Federer was clearly on the wane by 2008, as is obvious from his results against the rest of the field, including Nadal.
You are quite right: I was speaking from my definitely fallible memory. My general idea is still the same, despite cries that the Swiss "overachiever" (whom I called a brilliant player) is still dangerous to world no.1. Yes, he just may have won a lot of slams (the "may" emphasized) but probably wouldn't have had there been Nadal and Djokovic, or players of that caliber. That's why I believe that Nadal is a stronger (better) player and that Djokovic may even be better than Nadal. Of course, I am aware that this is only a speculation.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:22 AM   #32
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To win ten slams while having no talent is quite the achievement. There will never be another Nadull.
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To win ten slams while having no talent is quite the achievement. There will never be another Nadull.
Long time no see, ROADMAP, you jus love to talk some sense when it comes to rafa dont you
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Long time no see, ROADMAP, you jus love to talk some sense when it comes to rafa dont you
I am anti Nadull but realistic. I fully expect a seventh French Open title for him come soon. My main gripe is the fraud he is allowed to commit outside of clay. Not too clever and disgraceful for the people who should know better.
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If Nadal lose to Djo in both Roland Garros and Olympics finals, Rafa will be Career Golden Slam + Career Silver Slam runners-up
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You are quite right: I was speaking from my definitely fallible memory. My general idea is still the same, despite cries that the Swiss "overachiever" (whom I called a brilliant player) is still dangerous to world no.1. Yes, he just may have won a lot of slams (the "may" emphasized) but probably wouldn't have had there been Nadal and Djokovic, or players of that caliber. That's why I believe that Nadal is a stronger (better) player and that Djokovic may even be better than Nadal. Of course, I am aware that this is only a speculation.
What are you basing this on? For a start, Nadal & Djokovic were there - Nadal reached Top 3 in 2005, Djoker in 2007, & Fed was beating them more often than not (except Nadal on clay), when they were good enough to get to him. You're just assuming Nadal & Djoker are better than Fed & restating it in different, semi-coherent ways. Well sorry bud, the record says Fed is far superior to both, & however badly a declining Fed did against Nadal, he NEVER lost 7 finals in a freaking row.
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What are you basing this on? For a start, Nadal & Djokovic were there - Nadal reached Top 3 in 2005, Djoker in 2007, & Fed was beating them more often than not (except Nadal on clay), when they were good enough to get to him. You're just assuming Nadal & Djoker are better than Fed & restating it in different, semi-coherent ways. Well sorry bud, the record says Fed is far superior to both, & however badly a declining Fed did against Nadal, he NEVER lost 7 finals in a freaking row.
OK, point taken. First I got my peaking periods wrong, second I misplaced Nadal's and Djoko's raising to top spots, which makes my half-baked speculation all wrong. As I said I wasn't quite sure about the chronology, now I finally looked up the facts about their best performances. You are right, I was wrong It was probably due to my personal discomfort with Federer, brillant as he is as a player, but not very likeable, at least to me. The follies of personal bias
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:42 PM   #39
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OK, point taken. First I got my peaking periods wrong, second I misplaced Nadal's and Djoko's raising to top spots, which makes my half-baked speculation all wrong. As I said I wasn't quite sure about the chronology, now I finally looked up the facts about their best performances. You are right, I was wrong It was probably due to my personal discomfort with Federer, brillant as he is as a player, but not very likeable, at least to me. The follies of personal bias
So you don't like Federer so you just decided to make up some "facts" to discount him as a player? Well, at least you admit your stupidity.
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Excellent consistency from Nadal, he's reached the last 4 finals winning 1. This is way better than Roger Federer or Andy Murray and there is just one man ahead of him at the moment. Being the finalist the last 3 times is nothing to scoff at, in fact, it adds to Nadal's legacy.
history will judge accurately only at the end of their careers.

these are just normal cycles of the sport.

we will only know down the road who fared best. right now fed is sitting on his 16 slams and clay warrior has his 10.

quite obviously both nadal and nole are going to add to their slam totals over the next 4 years.

fed may snag one as well.

nadal only needs a couple of slam finals wins over nole to start repairing the head to head record in slams.

head to head records in smaller events mean nothing to those who are all time greats like fed, nadal, and nole. these guys measure greatness by the slams they win.
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Well said, but kind of irrelevant. I am an "elderly" guy who's been watching (and playing) tennis for quite a while. I don't play any more but I tend to see things and rivalries in a different light. To put all this is simpler terms: Roger Federer is mistakenly taken to be the greatest of all time due to reasons that are obvious --- he exploited the time when Agassi and Sampras were leaving the big scene and when there were only the fledgling teenager Rafael Nadal and the yet-to-come teenager Novak Djokovic just around the corner. During that time, roughly between 2006-2010, just before Nadal started his reign, Federer garnered most, almost all, of his slams. Nadal took over at that time winning his slams with Federer, still a brilliant player who was not yet on the wane, and the slowly emerging Djokovic, plus the one-timer, Del Potro. Now it's Djokovic taking slams, with Nadal peaking in strength and tennis maturity, and the great Stottish tactician, Andy Murray, and the great French athlete, Tsonga, and a handful of other very strong players. In my eyes it is obvious that the bulk of Federer's slams was earned on account of rather weak opposition. Please prove me wrong. I do not for a moment deny Federer's brilliancy as a player, what I question is the CONTEXT in which players earn their majors.

For all this said above, I think that Nadal is a stronger player than Federer, and that Djokovic might prove to be even stronger. I may be wrong but I would like some sort of explication, not only mindless name-calling. And, no, I do not like Djokovic all that much (as a player he's not on par with, say, Nalbandian or even Davydenko, but he is a much stronger character and a greater "warrior" who's even out-classed Rafael Nadal in that department).

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so federer dominated in a weak era, beating the likes of nalbandian and davydenko, yet you say the current world number 1 djokovic is not 'on a par' with players such as nalbandian and davydenko?
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so federer dominated in a weak era, beating the likes of nalbandian and davydenko, yet you say the current world number 1 djokovic is not 'on a par' with players such as nalbandian and davydenko?
Its MTF. You looking for logic pal?
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So you don't like Federer so you just decided to make up some "facts" to discount him as a player? Well, at least you admit your stupidity.
I am not going to call you stupid for your misunderstanding of what I wrote. If you just cared to re-read what I wrote you'd see that I never made up some facts but used only my evidently hazy memory and said so at least twice. But it calling someone stupid makes you happy, so be it.

I guess I should finally realize what kind of forum actually this is. Thanks for helping.
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so federer dominated in a weak era, beating the likes of nalbandian and davydenko, yet you say the current world number 1 djokovic is not 'on a par' with players such as nalbandian and davydenko?
I think that both Nalbandian and Davydenko play more attractive tennis than Djokovic, and that's why I like them more. However they were not as competitive as Djokovic, even in their prime. Tennis is becoming more and more physical, isn't it.
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OK, point taken. First I got my peaking periods wrong, second I misplaced Nadal's and Djoko's raising to top spots, which makes my half-baked speculation all wrong. As I said I wasn't quite sure about the chronology, now I finally looked up the facts about their best performances. You are right, I was wrong It was probably due to my personal discomfort with Federer, brillant as he is as a player, but not very likeable, at least to me. The follies of personal bias
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