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Old 11-06-2012, 03:44 PM   #1
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Got stats on most of the top 100 at the moment and here are the top 10 for tie-break's this year at ATP tour level:

1. G.Zemlja - Played 9 Won 77.78%
=2. I.Sijsling - Played 8 Won 75.00%
=2. D.Nalbandian- Played 12 Won 75.00%
4. R.Nadal - Played 11 Won 72.73%
5. M.Llodra - Played 14 Won 71.43%
6. N.Davydenko - Played 13 Won 69.23%
7. T.Haas - Played 16 Won 68.75%
8. A.Murray - Played 25 Won 68.00%
9. J.Isner - Played 56 Won 67.86%
=10. F.Fognini - Played 15 Won 66.67%
=10. B.Baker - Played 15 Won 66.67%

Interesting to see quite a few veterans in the top 10 - Nalbandian, Llodra, Davydenko & Haas. Also Isner played 56 tie-breaks this year!!

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Wow no Federer? Can't recall seeing him lose a tiebreak like....ever
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Wow no Federer? Can't recall seeing him lose a tiebreak like....ever
Federer has played 31 tie breaks this year winning 61.29% of them which puts him 18th on the list. He has dropped a few tie-breaks to people he shouldn't have this year: Ungur, Benneteau, Roddick & Bellucci. He has also dropped a couple to Raonic in there matches
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There should be a minimum requirement of TBs played. Part-time players like Nadal should also be excluded from the sample.
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There should be a minimum requirement of TBs played. Part-time players like Nadal should also be excluded from the sample.
11 TB's is more than enough, not his fault he's not an all serve mug like Jizzner and Serverer and finishes the sets off in 6-2 or 6-3
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11 TB's is more than enough, not his fault he's not an all serve mug like Jizzner and Serverer and finishes the sets off in 6-2 or 6-3
Well, I am not saying he should be excluded for the # of TBs played. He should be excluded because he doesn't play on the ATP tour full-time .
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11 TB's is more than enough, not his fault he's not an all serve mug like Jizzner and Serverer and finishes the sets off in 6-2 or 6-3
Yeah, I wish Federer would sometimes win matches like 6-3 6-1 or something. Well, a boy can dream I guess...
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Yeah, I wish Federer would sometimes win matches like 6-3 6-1 or something. Well, a boy can dream I guess...
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Isner and Murray are the most impressive. No surprise to see the top spots occupied by people who played <15 tiebreaks, winning a high % after playing 20+ is a lot more difficult.
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Out of the top 20 Wawrinka has by far the worst stats for tie-breaks.

Played 28 and won just 35.71% of them
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This again shows how clutch Nadal is, having such a huge percentage (in his career it's pretty high as well I believe) without a big serve that can help him out.
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Ok if you refine it for the top 10 who have played at least 20 tie breaks we have:

1. A.Murray - Played 25 Won 68.00%
2. J.Isner - Played 56 Won 67.86%
3. J.Melzer - Played 20 Won 65.00%
4. J.Tipsarevic - Played 34 Won 64.71%
5. D.Ferrer - Played 31 Won 64.52%
6. R.Federer - Played 31 Won 61.29%
7. J.Tsonga - Played 36 Won 61.11%
8. S.Querrey - Played 33 Won 60.61%
9. J.Del Potro - Played 43 Won 60.47%
10. R.Stepanek - Played 20 Won 60.00%
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This again shows how clutch Nadal is, having such a huge percentage (in his career it's pretty high as well I believe) without a big serve that can help him out.
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11 TB's is more than enough, not his fault he's not an all serve mug like Jizzner and Serverer and finishes the sets off in 6-2 or 6-3
U wot m8?

Federer has 31 tie breaks this year.

You trolling?
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U wot m8?

Federer has 31 tie breaks this year.

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