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Old 01-28-2012, 03:07 AM   #391
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Great effort from Nole. Truly greats of the game never know when they are defeated and thats what exactly what he did. I saw him huffing and puffing at the start of the third set and he showed incredible reserve to win it. He really is a fourth set Goat.
As for murray he has to take the final step. For some reason he doesnt believe he can win the whole match when he is ahead. Its a small but a crucial one that he needs to fix. And i hope he does because he is too good a player to lose out
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Old 01-28-2012, 05:03 AM   #392
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The only set he lost where he was leading was the fifth, and that can be attributed as much to Djokovic's fight than anything else.
He may have won the set, but Murray's mental collapse in the third set probably lost him the match. People may call him a faker in other incidents, but Djokovic was clearly struggling there and Murray had a trillion break points that he almost exclusively threw away with poor play. Hell, pretty much 90% of points Djokovic won in the first half of that set were from horrendus Murray errors. Murray just collapsed mentally and even though he eventually did win the set, the effort killed him and he played Djokovic back into the match.
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Cross-era H2H: Djokovic one, Lendl zero.

A big caveat for all the analysts, journalists, coaches, serious fans and the like: You can analyze Nole's weaknesses day in and day out, you can even devise the ways to exploit them, and you would probably get it all right - but you can BENEFIT from all that ONLY if he lets you to.

As for Lendl, it is now obvious that, for Murray, he's nowhere near a gene therapy. He's mere botox.
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Considering how fast Roland Garros is, he will have an outside chance there. He can win Wimbledon. I like Rafa, alot, but Andy would have beat him w/out a doubt if they had played, playing the way he did against Novak. Rafa, just got the better draw w/ the swiss miss on his half.
Murray beating Nadal is always in doubt. Nadal wouldn't let Murray play the way he did against Djokovic, just like Djokovic doesn't let Rafa play as well as he does against Murray.
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That 3rd set had nothing to do with Murray. Usually after Djokovic loses a tiebreak (or a tight set), he has a tendency to go for broke. Here are some perfect examples from last year:

Australian Open: Lost second set tiebreak to Dodig. Next set: 6-0 to Djokovic
Dubai: Lost first set tiebreak to Berdych. Next set: 6-2 to Djokovic
U.S. Open: lost second set tiebreak to Tipsarevic. Next set: 6-0 to Djokovic
U.S. Open: lost 3rd set tiebreak to Nadal. Next set: 6-1 to Djokovic

The 6-1 set with Murray was NID
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That 3rd set had nothing to do with Murray. Usually after Djokovic loses a tiebreak (or a tight set), he has a tendency to go for broke.
That's one of reasons he is the best in the world. He is prepared to stay focused no matter which the scoreline is. Usually TB changes the momentum, and a player who loses needs a couple games to recover, Djokovic is able to erase from his mind an unfortunate set and begin the following with very positive attitude (Nadal can to that as well).
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He may have won the set, but Murray's mental collapse in the third set probably lost him the match. People may call him a faker in other incidents, but Djokovic was clearly struggling there and Murray had a trillion break points that he almost exclusively threw away with poor play. Hell, pretty much 90% of points Djokovic won in the first half of that set were from horrendus Murray errors. Murray just collapsed mentally and even though he eventually did win the set, the effort killed him and he played Djokovic back into the match.
100% spot on.
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Only saw the last set of the match, so I cannot really comment on the nature of play up to that point.

Obviously I'm pleased that Muzza made a match of it, when potentially Djokovic would win fairly comfortably. However, I'm disappointed with that 5th set, and that alone demonstrates the area where Muzza MUST improve his game/approach...he needs to really develop that killing instinct to beat Djokovic/Nadal/Federer in Slam matches.

It was predictable that Muzza would fold first in that fifth set and, whilst I was encouraged that he fought his way back into it (to get to 5-5), he let Djokovic off the hook again when he didn't convert on one of those 3 bps...TWO of those were winnable. He might not have won the match had he broken for *6-5, but at least he would have forced Djokovic right up against a wall. It was a shame he couldn't manage that.

In all, it was another encouraging effort from Muzza, and he needs to remain patient in his search for a first Slam. It won't happen at the French Open, and it is unlikely to happen at Wimbledon either.

Like last year, he needs to hope that Djokovic and Nadal will battle each other into the ground over the course of the season, and start to tire in time for the US Open. If the USTA follow up on their intention to speed up the courts again (after last year's laughably slow surface), it will be a bonus for him (although also for Federer, principally).

The best thing Muzza can do for now is to focus on his next events, and aim to: (a) win matches; (b) win without playing himself into the ground. Another post-Slam slump won't do him any good, and he needs to work on developing a bit of a 'fear factor' to reduce the threat from some of his nearest rivals (Del Potro, Berdych, Tsonga etc).
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You thought a tight 2 sets to 1 lead was insurmountable by the world #1? I commend you for admitting that you know very little about the game and have only a cursory interest in the sport itself....If only the remaining 70% MTF clowns would do the same!
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Anywhere Andy's post match interview??
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Anywhere Andy's post match interview??
Here http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/...673723322.html
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Murray says it was 'a very good match'
Only the 5th set can be called a good quality set, and even that might be under impression thinking because of the drama there.
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That 3rd set had nothing to do with Murray. Usually after Djokovic loses a tiebreak (or a tight set), he has a tendency to go for broke. Here are some perfect examples from last year:

Australian Open: Lost second set tiebreak to Dodig. Next set: 6-0 to Djokovic
Dubai: Lost first set tiebreak to Berdych. Next set: 6-2 to Djokovic
U.S. Open: lost second set tiebreak to Tipsarevic. Next set: 6-0 to Djokovic
U.S. Open: lost 3rd set tiebreak to Nadal. Next set: 6-1 to Djokovic

The 6-1 set with Murray was NID
Great post MIMIC, I was wondering the same because he seem's to come storming back each time a set seems to get a away from him. Sign of a champion - has to be said.

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Only the 5th set can be called a good quality set, and even that might be under impression thinking because of the drama there.
That is a fucking ridiculous statement. I'm guessing there's no bias for or against a player here, no?
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Great post MIMIC, I was wondering the same because he seem's to come storming back each time a set seems to get a away from him. Sign of a champion - has to be said.


That is a fucking ridiculous statement. I'm guessing there's no bias for or against a player here, no?
What was good before the 5th set? Poor quality in the first 3 sets and anyone will tell you that. In the 4th Djokovic played solid, but Murray didn't even try.

As someone said in the livescore thread, make this match end like 10-8 in the 5th and people will be calling it epic.
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I'm under no illusion to think that if it goes into a long fifth set that it would automatically qualify as an epic match. I honestly think that this was a high quality game that was extremely tight. It was compelling to watch. I don't see how you can justify saying it was shit up until the fifth, but maybe you have your own reasons. It was certainly better than the other semi anyway.
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