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05-12-2012, 03:17 AM
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Re: Federer: "These days players have same speed everywhere"
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Originally Posted by gulzhan
Has any player asked for permission to use different shoes? Come on, Madrid may be called clay but when it's so fast and slippery, it's a different surface. At least as far as the muscles are concerned 
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I don't think there are shoes tailor made for the surface but I believe next year it won't be as slippery, and it is still clay, not hardcourt nor grass 
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05-12-2012, 03:31 AM
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#167
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Re: Federer: "These days players have same speed everywhere"
It's fun to bitch and hate 
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Never held a racquet in my life.
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I've played the game for close to 10 years. This should come as no surprise to many.
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05-12-2012, 04:09 AM
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#168
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Re: Federer: "These days players have same speed everywhere"
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Originally Posted by Sri
Let's look at it this way. For at least six years, aggressive players have been disadvantaged by slowing down of courts all through the season.
And the minute the trend reverses in just one tournament, the boycott threats and blackmailing tactics begin?
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Not a single lie detected in this post.
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11-22-2012, 01:39 AM
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Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?
I think court speed and surface variety rather than homogenization is great and all, but why stop there? What about the single most important factor impacting playing styles??? I'm talking, of course, about the rackets! What's under the players' feet becomes a minor issue in this context. Because the difference between a wooden racket, a 90's racket and a modern racket is SO much more meaningful than the difference between RG and Wimbledon, or the difference between Indian wells and one of those really fast, minor, february indoor tournaments that I don't watch but everyone says are the fastest courts on the tour... So, if the objective is a smorgasbord of successful playing styles, then isn't the optimal solution actually a variation in racket technology? If you want more finesse and volleying at Wimbledon, maybe we should bring back wooden rackets! Faster grass courts/balls will only mean serve-athons anyway.
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11-22-2012, 01:41 AM
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Re: Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?
Why use a different font?
And no one is bringing wooden rackets back, so the solution is to speed the courts up.
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Nadal of course. He and Djokovic are by far the most likeable members in top 4.
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As a knowledgable tennis fan (unlike some people here), I can tell you exactly that. There are tennis players who have problems with playing indoor tennis because of the different lights, different sounds etc. compared to outdoors and Nadal is obvioulsy one of those players.
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11-22-2012, 01:43 AM
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Re: Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?
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Originally Posted by Mjau!
maybe we should bring back wooden rackets!
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 This is almost sig-worthy!
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11-22-2012, 01:49 AM
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Re: Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?
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Why use a different font? 
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The standard one is boring.
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And no one is bringing wooden rackets back, so the solution is to speed the courts up.
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Not with that attitude! 
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11-22-2012, 01:50 AM
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Re: Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?
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You say that about everything but never put anything fun in your sig.
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Originally Posted by Noserer
Nadal of course. He and Djokovic are by far the most likeable members in top 4.
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Originally Posted by Matt01
As a knowledgable tennis fan (unlike some people here), I can tell you exactly that. There are tennis players who have problems with playing indoor tennis because of the different lights, different sounds etc. compared to outdoors and Nadal is obvioulsy one of those players.
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11-22-2012, 01:51 AM
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Re: Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?
modern rackets helps produce more attacking tennis, allowing true talents to flourish so this isn't a problem at all
the grindfest court surfaces on the other hand...... 
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11-22-2012, 01:53 AM
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Re: Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?
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I think it's a GREAT idea... You're just afraid to think outside the box! 
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11-22-2012, 01:56 AM
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Re: Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?
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Originally Posted by End da Game
modern rackets helps produce more attacking tennis, allowing true talents to flourish so this isn't a problem at all
the grindfest court surfaces on the other hand...... 
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No, they help eliminating true attacking tennis and significantly devalues several historically important shots (slice, volley). Thus hurting both attacking tennis and true talent.
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11-22-2012, 10:04 AM
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Re: Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?
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Originally Posted by Mjau!
No, they help eliminating true attacking tennis and significantly devalues several historically important shots (slice, volley). Thus hurting both attacking tennis and true talent.
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This is in fact true.
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11-22-2012, 10:25 AM
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Re: Federer on surface homogenisation
It didn't bother Federer until he
lost to real champions.
Only Safin beat the number 1
(the most infamous inflated slam winner) - Safin faced 4 match points vs. Flukerer
Roddick is the only number 1 in history who couldn't beat top 10 opponents in Olympics & Davis Cup ties.
Roddick & Hewitt never beat the top 2 seeds in Slams.
Djoker, Nadal, Murray, Ferrer & Del Potro beat top 2 players in Slams.
Djoker beat all top 3 seeds in a Masters Series event.
Federer never did.
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11-22-2012, 12:14 PM
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Re: Federer on surface homogenisation
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Originally Posted by heya
It didn't bother Federer until he
lost to real champions.
Only Safin beat the number 1
(the most infamous inflated slam winner) - Safin faced 4 match points vs. Flukerer
Roddick is the only number 1 in history who couldn't beat top 10 opponents in Olympics & Davis Cup ties.
Roddick & Hewitt never beat the top 2 seeds in Slams.
Djoker, Nadal, Murray, Ferrer & Del Potro beat top 2 players in Slams.
Djoker beat all top 3 seeds in a Masters Series event.
Federer never did.
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11-22-2012, 01:11 PM
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#180
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Re: Roger admitted that surface homogenization helped him and Rafa
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Originally Posted by Quadruple Tree
19 year old Federer beat Sampras on the old Wimbledon grass playing serve and volley when Pete was on a 30 match winning streak. It was the match of 2001, so you are either like 10 years old or just being a willful idiot. Since you've heard of Laver, I'm going with the latter.
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Roger then lost to a much lesser player than Pete in the following round. Yes, Roger did play great that day, which I am sure Pete was not expecting in an early round match. Sort of like Rosol beating Nadal. He played way above his normal level for a whole match. Unlike Roger, however, it seems that Rosol has had his only day in the sun. If a lesser player is going to beat a top player, especially in a slam, an early round match is usually the time to do it.
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