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Old 05-12-2012, 03:17 AM   #166
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Has any player asked for permission to use different shoes? Come on, Madrid may be called clay but when it's so fast and slippery, it's a different surface. At least as far as the muscles are concerned
I don't think there are shoes tailor made for the surface but I believe next year it won't be as slippery, and it is still clay, not hardcourt nor grass
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Let's look at it this way. For at least six years, aggressive players have been disadvantaged by slowing down of courts all through the season.

And the minute the trend reverses in just one tournament, the boycott threats and blackmailing tactics begin?
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Default Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?

I think court speed and surface variety rather than homogenization is great and all, but why stop there? What about the single most important factor impacting playing styles??? I'm talking, of course, about the rackets! What's under the players' feet becomes a minor issue in this context. Because the difference between a wooden racket, a 90's racket and a modern racket is SO much more meaningful than the difference between RG and Wimbledon, or the difference between Indian wells and one of those really fast, minor, february indoor tournaments that I don't watch but everyone says are the fastest courts on the tour... So, if the objective is a smorgasbord of successful playing styles, then isn't the optimal solution actually a variation in racket technology? If you want more finesse and volleying at Wimbledon, maybe we should bring back wooden rackets! Faster grass courts/balls will only mean serve-athons anyway.
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Why use a different font?

And no one is bringing wooden rackets back, so the solution is to speed the courts up.
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Default Re: Surface homogenization discussions - what about technology?

modern rackets helps produce more attacking tennis, allowing true talents to flourish so this isn't a problem at all

the grindfest court surfaces on the other hand......
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modern rackets helps produce more attacking tennis, allowing true talents to flourish so this isn't a problem at all

the grindfest court surfaces on the other hand......
No, they help eliminating true attacking tennis and significantly devalues several historically important shots (slice, volley). Thus hurting both attacking tennis and true talent.
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No, they help eliminating true attacking tennis and significantly devalues several historically important shots (slice, volley). Thus hurting both attacking tennis and true talent.
This is in fact true.
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It didn't bother Federer until he
lost to real champions.

Only Safin beat the number 1
(the most infamous inflated slam winner) - Safin faced 4 match points vs. Flukerer

Roddick is the only number 1 in history who couldn't beat top 10 opponents in Olympics & Davis Cup ties.

Roddick & Hewitt never beat the top 2 seeds in Slams.

Djoker, Nadal, Murray, Ferrer & Del Potro beat top 2 players in Slams.

Djoker beat all top 3 seeds in a Masters Series event.
Federer never did.
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It didn't bother Federer until he
lost to real champions.

Only Safin beat the number 1
(the most infamous inflated slam winner) - Safin faced 4 match points vs. Flukerer

Roddick is the only number 1 in history who couldn't beat top 10 opponents in Olympics & Davis Cup ties.

Roddick & Hewitt never beat the top 2 seeds in Slams.

Djoker, Nadal, Murray, Ferrer & Del Potro beat top 2 players in Slams.

Djoker beat all top 3 seeds in a Masters Series event.
Federer never did.
Fed is a talentless mug. He fluked 17 slams, 6 WTF, 302 weeks at #1. His luck is disgusting.
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19 year old Federer beat Sampras on the old Wimbledon grass playing serve and volley when Pete was on a 30 match winning streak. It was the match of 2001, so you are either like 10 years old or just being a willful idiot. Since you've heard of Laver, I'm going with the latter.
Roger then lost to a much lesser player than Pete in the following round. Yes, Roger did play great that day, which I am sure Pete was not expecting in an early round match. Sort of like Rosol beating Nadal. He played way above his normal level for a whole match. Unlike Roger, however, it seems that Rosol has had his only day in the sun. If a lesser player is going to beat a top player, especially in a slam, an early round match is usually the time to do it.
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