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Old 12-12-2012, 10:25 PM   #196
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I hope not to have to vote for Soderling anytime soon
Yes, hopefully we will get to see him back on the court next year.

You have to name at least 5 players so you have to add one more player to make your vote count

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Haven't sorted my list out yet, but thought I'd point out that Santoro, Henman, Moya and Philippoussis are among those playing in the Statoil Masters Tennis at the Royal Albert Hall this week http://www.statoilmasterstennis.com/schedule/. If you're in the UK, at least, you can catch quite a lot of the matches live on ITV4. I'm looking forward to seeing Santoro: I don't think I ever saw him play live, and I've heard so much about him.
It's always great to see the former players live. I haven't seen Santoro myself yet but had the pleasure to see 2 of my favorite retired players this year in Halle - Edberg and Stich.

I planned to go to the Zurich Open next year but unfortunately the tournament got cancelled as they lost the sponsor BNP Paribas.

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Man of principles, stickes with his list all these years .

Is any active player even close to be considered to enter the list ?
Seppi comes to mind
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:00 AM   #197
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1. Diego Hardfield
2. Gaston Gaudio
3. Andre Agassi
4. Fabrice Santoro
5. Bahrami
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1. Agassi- A whacky character, and a great player!
2. Sampras- Stayed under the radar despite being such a great player!
3. Kuerten- Nice guy, good game
4. Chang- Same as above
5. Roddick- Great serve!
6. Ivanisevic- His Wimbledon triumph might be the best tennis moment ever
7. Courier- A huge forehand!
8. Laver- One of the greatest ever
9. Santoro- Whacky game
10. Coria- I feel bad for his RG loss
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:00 PM   #199
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First post is updated with the final results

We have some famous new entries like Roddick, Gonzalez and Ljubicic but the winner of this poll was never in doubt

Thanks everyone for voting and especially to those who included reasons for their decisions
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:13 PM   #200
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Great, thanks for arranging Doris!

I am a little surprised to see Ilie Nastase was this year's highest climber, from 92 to 54. Not counting new arrivals, obviously. Further up I am also surprised to see Agassi doing so much better than last year. What's different for him this year?
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Great, thanks for arranging Doris!

I am a little surprised to see Ilie Nastase was this year's highest climber, from 92 to 54. Not counting new arrivals, obviously. Further up I am also surprised to see Agassi doing so much better than last year. What's different for him this year?
Probably new members who like him.

Most recently retired will always have an advantage in this contest.
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:42 PM   #202
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Great, thanks for arranging Doris!
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Further up I am also surprised to see Agassi doing so much better than last year. What's different for him this year?
Maybe the question would be what's with the people who usually vote for Edberg and Rafter?
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Maybe the question would be what's with the people who usually vote for Edberg and Rafter?
True, there are two ways of doing better. Improving your own score or seeing your opponents get less. I hope Edberg and Rafter won't fade from people's memories, though, they deserve to be remembered. As do so many others. This thread is great for remembering them
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Are you going to add the final results like in the active players post?
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Safin winning again is great

Why so little love for Ancic though ? He's even a recent retiree and was a likeable guy with a great game.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:03 PM   #206
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Are you going to add the final results like in the active players post?
You can see the results in the 1st post of the thread but here they are again as well


Final results (ranking from previous year in parantheses) :

1 Safin, Marat 602 (1)

2 Roddick, Andy 478 (NEW)
3 Agassi, Andre 470 (6)

4 Edberg, Stefan 447 (2)
5 Sampras, Pete 390 (3)

6 Kuerten, Gustavo 376 (5)
7 Ferrero, Juan Carlos 342 (NEW)
7 Rafter, Patrick 342 (4)
9 Santoro, Fabrice 298 (9)
10 Henman, Tim 274 (11)
10 Ivanisevic, Goran 274 (7)

12 McEnroe, John 244 (8)
13 Gonzalez, Fernando 239 (NEW)
14 Borg, Björn 235 (10)
15 Becker, Boris 228 (15)
16 Ancic, Mario 158 (17)
17 Lendl, Ivan 145 (21)
18 Kafelnikov, Yevgeny 141 (18)
19 Ljubicic, Ivan 133 (NEW)
20 Moya, Carlos 108 (12)

21 Courier, Jim 104 (25)
22 Coria, Guillermo 98 (20)
22 Gaudio, Gaston 98 (19)
24 Krajicek, Richard 96 (22)
25 Grosjean, Sebastian 93 (26)
26 Muster, Thomas 88 (27)
27 Stich, Michael 86 (29)
28 Rios, Marcelo 82 (16)
29 Chang, Michael 73 (31)
30 Laver, Rod 65 (28)
30 Phillippoussis, Mark 65 (13)

32 Clement, Arnaud 58 (NEW)
33 Corretja, Alex 52 (14)
33 Mecir, Miroslav 52 (23)
33 Noah, Yannick 52 (24)
36 Schüttler, Rainer 45 (NEW)
37 Ashe, Arthur 41 (33)
37 El Aynaoui, Younes 41 (43)
37 Johansson, Thomas 41 (40)
40 Rosewall, Ken 39 (31)

41 Schalken, Sjeng 38 (47)
42 Connors, Jimmy 37 (43)
43 Lapentti, Nicolas 34 (30)
44 Escudé, Nicolas 32 (41)
44 Leconte, Henri 32 (55)
46 Johansson, Joachim 31 (47)
46 Pavel, Andrei 31 (42)
48 Bahrami, Mansour 29 (65)
48 Dent, Taylor 29 (71)
48 Kiefer, Nicolas 29 (35)
48 Rosset, Marc 29 (55)
48 Zivojinovic, Slobodan 29 (NEW)

53 Rusedski, Greg 28 (65)
54 Björkman, Jonas 25 (35)
54 Nastase, Ilie 25 (92)
56 Pioline, Cedric 21 (55)
57 Calleri, Agustin 20 (39)
57 Korda, Petr 20 (86)
59 Arazi, Hicham 19 (59)
59 Carlsson, Kent 19 (49)

61 Arthurs, Wayne 17 (53)
61 Canas, Guillermo 17 (76)
61 Jarryd, Anders 17 (92)
61 Norman, Magnus 17 (37)
61 Sargsian, Sargis 17 (78)
61 Scrichaphan, Paradorn 17 (50)
67 Wilander, Mats 16 (45)
68 Hrbaty, Dominik 15 (NEW)
68 Luczak, Peter 15 (NEW)
70 Martin, Todd 14 (105)

71 Berasategui, Alberto 13 (55)
71 Kucera, Karol 13 (52)
73 Ferreira, Wayne 12 (78)
73 Medvedev, Andrej 12 (60)
73 Vilas, Guillermo 12 (65)
76 Larsson, Magnus 11 (45)
77 Forget, Guy 10 (65)
77 Hardfield, Diego 10 (NEW)
77 Lejnieks, Karlis 10 (NEW)
77 Richey, Cliff 10 (NEW)

81 Cash, Pat 9 (71)
81 Gerulaitis, Vitas 9 (60)
81 Lee, Martin 9 (NEW)
81 Roche, Tony 9 (NEW)
81 Vermeer, Mike 9 (NEW)
81 Washington, MaliVai 9 (NEW)
87 Labadze, Irakli 8 (NEW)
87 Lloyd, John 8 (NEW)
87 Mantilla, Felix 8 (71)
87 Rajski, Marciej 8 (NEW)

91 Acasuso, José 7 (NEW)
91 Costa, Albert 7 (111)
91 Horna, Luis 7 (78)
91 Verkerk, Martin 7 (NEW)
95 Boetsch, Arnaud 6 (86)
95 Golmard, Jerome 6 (NEW)
95 Haarhuis, Paul 6 (111)
95 Woodbridge, Todd 6 (63)
99 Bates, Jeremy 5 (NEW)
99 Clavet, Francisco 5 (86)
99 Emerson, Roy 5 (92)
99 Enqvist, Thomas 5 (37)
99 Siemerink, Jan 5 (65)

104 Carlsen, Kenneth 4 (NEW)
104 Hoad, Lew 4 (NEW)
104 Krachtovil, Michel 4 (92)
104 Zabaleta, Mariano 4 (71)
108 Aspelin, Simon 3 (78)
108 Bruguera, Sergi 3 (50)
108 Gambill, Jan-Michael 3 (NEW)
108 Koenig, Robbie 3 (NEW)
108 Koevermans, Mark 3 (98)
108 Nyström, Joakim 3 (111)
108 Panatta, Adriano 3 (98)
108 Panatta, Claudio 3 (NEW)
108 Sanguinetti, Davide 3 (111)
108 Vemic, Dusan 3 (NEW)

118 Gaudenzi, Andrea 2 (86)
118 Günthardt, Heinz 2 (NEW)
118 Karbacher, Bernd 2 (98)
118 Svensson, Jonas 2 (111)

122 Alami, Karim 1 (105)
122 Chesnokov, Andrei 1 (63)
122 Eltingh, Jakko 1 (111)
122 Koellerer, Daniel 1 (NEW)
122 Masur, Wally 1 (NEW)
122 Spadea, Vince 1 (98)
122 Westphal, Michael 1 (111)
122 Woodforde, Mark 1 (78)[/quote]
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Default Re: 2012 MTF Top 10 Favourite Retired Players (Marat wins 3rd consecutive time)

Cool, .

BTW, How did Roddick get so many votes if he only retired a few months ago?? Did you count the votes he had in "Favorite Active Player" before he retired?
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:00 PM   #208
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Yes, I added the votes from the Active Players Thread into this one.

Same goes for the other players who retired this season.
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1. Andre Agassi (best of the best, see him on my avy )
2. Serge Sargsian
3. Pete Sampras (Andre's all time rival)
4. Guillermo Coria
5. Mark Phillippoussis
6. Jim Courier
7. Seba Grosjean
8. John McEnroe
9. Ivan Lendl
10.Guga Kuerten
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2. David Nalbandian
3. Serge Sargsian
4. Pete Sampras (Andre's all time rival)
5. Guillermo Coria
6. Mark Phillippoussis
7. Seba Grosjean
8. John McEnroe
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