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Old 01-11-2012, 02:02 AM   #61
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Novak asked to Marsel Ilhan with SMS (ATP no 113) for wildcard in future tournament for his brother Marko Djokovic.

"Marcel, happy new year! Wish you all the best in 2012. I am texting you regarding you My brother Marko. He was playing some futures in Antalya and earned 10 points. But he wasnt playing for one year because of surgery. In this moment he is still not in main draw of tournaments in the same place in Antalya! Main draw starts on 16 jan. i want to ask you if you can somehow ask the Turkish Federation for WC main draw for him that week or any other week. he would play to 2-3 weeks there. his name is Marko Djokovic. please let me know. thank you. Novak Djokovic."

Then he sent another SMS to Can Uner who has been coach of Marsel.

"Hello Can Uner. Yes, it would be great of we can have two WC (16 jan and one week after) If not, then one would be good as well. Thank you and sorry for disturbing."

Marsel said about it to federation but tournament director rejected it because of Marko's coach Nikola Jovanovic. Marko played some tournaments in Turkey at the end of 2011. At one of those tournaments Jovanovic got into a unpleasant discussion.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the number #1 of the world. He asks wildcard to ATP no 113, then gets rejected.
this is even worse than PM'ing for votes during the pop con
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hahah i'm not saying Rafael's father's outbursts are classy either, but trying to pressure tournament organizer's/ tennis India, to give his what? 1000th ranked brother a wildcard into their tournament?

you all can call it just a 'nice brother' but it is inappropriate given his #1 ranking and position in the tennis world. did he really think his stature would pressure them into giving someone a wildcard based not on talent but on family. is that how we want tennis to be? a sport based on family and stature, not talent?

you can't really have it both ways so I am surprised Djokovic would ask them this, not as simple 'nice brother' like some of you make
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That's it. Djokovic claim as an all-time great has been ruined by the refusal of this tournament director.
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It's just nepotism at its best ........
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hahah i'm not saying Rafael's father's outbursts are classy either, but trying to pressure tournament organizer's/ tennis India, to give his what? 1000th ranked brother a wildcard into their tournament?

you all can call it just a 'nice brother' but it is inappropriate given his #1 ranking and position in the tennis world. did he really think his stature would pressure them into giving someone a wildcard based not on talent but on family. is that how we want tennis to be? a sport based on family and stature, not talent?

you can't really have it both ways so I am surprised Djokovic would ask them this, not as simple 'nice brother' like some of you make
Maybe they will fine him!
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Maybe they will fine him!
hahah it's just simple as a class thing, obviously getting 'favors' that are unfair is not ok. Marko shouldn't be put into tournaments just because he is the brother of Novak Djokovic, was silly for Novak to think that there affiliation was a good reason
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Oh come on. Nole is just being helpful to his brother's career. I'm sure you'd do the same if you were in his shoes. And I am not even close to being a Nole fan.
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Oh come on. Nole is just being helpful to his brother's career. I'm sure you'd do the same if you were in his shoes. And I am not even close to being a Nole fan.
it's not about brotherhood hahah, it's about tennis integrity. if the top players of the game can just influence through text/calls who is given wildcards to small tournaments like these, it can truly affect the opportunities out there for players who work hard. wildcards/seedings/etc should not be given out as favors but based on skill and players deserving them from hard work and success on the minor tours.

I get being a good brother but being a good brother does not mean ruining the integrity of the sport by getting your brother into tournaments he has not earned a position in.

the whole thread is a bit pointless, of course the tournament director rejected the request, in tennis wildcards are not given out based on desires of the top players to get their own family further, quite the opposite
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it's not about brotherhood hahah, it's about tennis integrity. if the top players of the game can just influence through text/calls who is given wildcards to small tournaments like these, it can truly affect the opportunities out there for players who work hard. wildcards/seedings/etc should not be given out as favors but based on skill and players deserving them from hard work and success on the minor tours.

I get being a good brother but being a good brother does not mean ruining the integrity of the sport by getting your brother into tournaments he has not earned a position in.

the whole thread is a bit pointless, of course the tournament director rejected the request, in tennis wildcards are not given out based on desires of the top players to get their own family further, quite the opposite
He politely ASKED. What is wrong with asking? He did not bribe anyone as far as I am aware.
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you all can call it just a 'nice brother' but it is inappropriate given his #1 ranking and position in the tennis world. did he really think his stature would pressure them into giving someone a wildcard based not on talent but on family. is that how we want tennis to be? a sport based on family and stature, not talent?
ffs, he was asking politely.
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The good thing in all of this is that Nole does not come across as a self-centered diva. At all.
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He politely ASKED. What is wrong with asking? He did not bribe anyone as far as I am aware.
it's not bribing exactly it's pressuring tournament adviser's based on his high position in tennis...

if Barack Obama asks the governor of Alabama politely***** to give his nephew a job as his assistant, is it ok just because he was polite about it? of course a random and fictional comparison, but relevant in that it is someone in a powerful position trying to influence an unjust promotion/decision.

manners have nothing to do with it, the fact is top players should not be influencing/asking for tournaments to do them 'favors' by throwing out wildcards to their family members.

shit, manners/politeness, is irrelevant, it's just the basic principle. not that complicated
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it's not bribing exactly it's pressuring tournament adviser's based on his high position in tennis...
Which part of his message exuded pressure? You are blowing it out of proportion. Please remember that he is a tennis player, not a politician or a person in public office. He did not become No.1 because he was voted. FFS, it's self-righteous people like you who are to blame for social decay worldwide.
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Which part of his message exuded pressure? You are blowing it out of proportion. Please remember that he is a tennis player, not a politician or a person in public office. He did not become No.1 because he was voted. FFS, it's self-righteous people like you who are to blame for social decay worldwide.
You got it all wrong. The fact that some people actually defend Djokovic is an indicator of social decay.
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it's not bribing exactly it's pressuring tournament adviser's based on his high position in tennis...

if Barack Obama asks the governor of Alabama politely***** to give his nephew a job as his assistant, is it ok just because he was polite about it? of course a random and fictional comparison, but relevant in that it is someone in a powerful position trying to influence an unjust promotion/decision.

manners have nothing to do with it, the fact is top players should not be influencing/asking for tournaments to do them 'favors' by throwing out wildcards to their family members.

shit, manners/politeness, is irrelevant, it's just the basic principle. not that complicated
dude, you are losing it. Now people in high positions shouldn't even ASK for something because it will automatically be construed as pressure/bullying/bribing/etc?? That's just political correctness run amok. And what kind of "power" does Novak have anyways? Why should the Turkish tennis federation be afraid of pissing off Novak Djokovic? What's he gonna do to them? It's not like he was ever going to play at one of their tournaments anyways.

I'm sure this kind of thing goes on all the time, just it's not made public on a regular basis. I mean, how do you think WCs to futures get handed out anyways? It's probably all nepotism and paying back of favours.
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