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Old 01-11-2012, 11:51 AM   #121
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That was when Nadal and Djokovic didnt peak.
So? He was 2 matches away from the calendar slam in 2009 as well.

It is depressing to have to go over the same ground over & over again. In the same period when Federer's results against Nadal & Djoker worsened - let's say 2008 onwards - his results against the rest of the field also worsened. So either everybody suddenly got better in 2008, or Federer declined against the rest of the field excluding Djokedal, who simply improved, or Federer simply declined, or Federer declined while Djokedal got better. Which hypothesis makes most sense?
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Old 01-11-2012, 11:52 AM   #122
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I actually think what Shinoj says makes a lot of sense.
Take off your Djokovic-coloured spectacles then.
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:15 PM   #123
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So? He was 2 matches away from the calendar slam in 2009 as well.

It is depressing to have to go over the same ground over & over again. In the same period when Federer's results against Nadal & Djoker worsened - let's say 2008 onwards - his results against the rest of the field also worsened. So either everybody suddenly got better in 2008, or Federer declined against the rest of the field excluding Djokedal, who simply improved, or Federer simply declined, or Federer declined while Djokedal got better. Which hypothesis makes most sense?
Even you know and even i know After Nadal and Djokovic peaked they over shadowed Federer.

And why should it feel depressing, he had his moment of glory. Sitting at 16 Grand Slams. Honestly wtf you want more as a fan?
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:28 PM   #124
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So? He was 2 matches away from the calendar slam in 2009 as well.

It is depressing to have to go over the same ground over & over again. In the same period when Federer's results against Nadal & Djoker worsened - let's say 2008 onwards - his results against the rest of the field also worsened. So either everybody suddenly got better in 2008, or Federer declined against the rest of the field excluding Djokedal, who simply improved, or Federer simply declined, or Federer declined while Djokedal got better. Which hypothesis makes most sense?


Whats depressing is watching people trying to reason with pathetically obvious trolls
Give it up pal, I think you should be able to recognise a lost case when you see one.
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:33 PM   #125
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Nice trolling shinoj lots of people taking the bait
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:55 PM   #126
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Hey Mystique,I am in too good a mood to start a random fight on internet. So could you stop your agenda of calling me a troll. You guys have no argument against Federer having a really good 2011.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:02 PM   #127
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What exactly IS the "Fedal Era"? Is it when they both win at least 1 slam a year? When they play slam finals (how many)? If it's the former than it definitely looks like the Fedal Era is on its way out.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:10 PM   #128
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I actually think what Shinoj says makes a lot of sense.
Ahahahaha, of course you do.


Anyway to answer the actual thread question, I think by 2013 the Fedal era will basically be over and they'd have to almost fluke another Slam victory. I don't think there's so much winning left in Federer, and slightly more in Nadal.

To address a couple of other things:

Wodger had a clear decline starting from 2008 due to mono probably and it coincided with a increased emergence of Nadal, and then Nadal and Fed ruled the roost jointly from rg 2008 - AO 2010 in roughly equal proportions but by this point (2009) as a tennis player Fed was certainly aging. I reckon Fed's prime was 2004 - 2009 but he was setback in 2008 due to mono, and from 2010 onward clearly demonstrated both a physical and mental decline compared to his best years, the signs of which I started seeing in a more permanent sense around US Open 2009 AO 2010 period -- Well he has an awful lot of matches under his legs so it's certainly understandable.

Also, to suggest that Nadal and Djokovic are better adapted to the current conditions is reasonable, certainly in the context of an aging Federer, but I think even if he was prime-time then he still might not be better equipped than Nadal and Djokovic to deal with the current conditions in tennis.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:24 PM   #129
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Hey Mystique,I am in too good a mood to start a random fight on internet. So could you stop your agenda of calling me a troll. You guys have no argument against Federer having a really good 2011.
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His 2011 wasn't awful, but it wasn't "really good" compared to his previous seasons. When you have 16 slams it's hard to call a slam-less season a "really good" one.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:43 PM   #130
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Even you know and even i know After Nadal and Djokovic peaked they over shadowed Federer.
I'm sorry but this doesn't answer the question. It's consistent with the proposition that Federer declined.
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Whats depressing is watching people trying to reason with pathetically obvious trolls
Give it up pal, I think you should be able to recognise a lost case when you see one.
Yeah all right. It's just hard to face doing work when I'm back in the office after the Christmas break.
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Nothing is over, Federer is just preparing the next wave of attack.
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Everybody is in decline, clearly. Whoever of the top 3 wins the AO will be the GOAT, and whoever loses is finished. Until the next tournament.

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Yeah all right. It's just hard to face doing work when I'm back in the office after the Christmas break.
I can relate
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His 2011 wasn't awful, but it wasn't "really good" compared to his previous seasons. When you have 16 slams it's hard to call a slam-less season a "really good" one.

The main reason that it wasnt as good as compared to his previous seasons is pretty Obvious. Djokovic emerged in 2011 and Nadal always had the better of Federer. Remove those two he would dominate in more or less the same way. And thats what happened in the end of 2011. Nadal and Djokovic both got exhausted and Federer started dominating.

Its a Big myth that federer has declined. Nadal and Djokovic have been better than Federer. Fuckin Deal with it.
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