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Old 01-04-2012, 06:42 PM   #61
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To say Nadal sucked on HC in 2007 is like saying Nadal sucks on HC now. So, yes, your reasoning is way poor. Tell me the difference between Nadal then and Nadal now on HCs with proper examples.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:51 PM   #62
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To say Nadal sucked on HC in 2007 is like saying Nadal sucks on HC now. So, yes, your reasoning is way poor. Tell me the difference between Nadal then and Nadal now on HCs with proper examples.
how many GS finals did he play and win on hardcourt in 2006,2007,2008?
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dude you can say all you want to me just dont insult because I never insulted you deal?

anyway Nadal sucked on harcourts at that time
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how many GS finals did he play and win on hardcourt in 2006,2007,2008?
None, he only started winning when the field had even more "depth" after 2008 notice the hypocrisy here?
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how many GS finals did he play and win on hardcourt in 2006,2007,2008?
He won olympic gold in 2008. And he won hardcourt masters in 2005 and 2007, nowadays he can´t The only reason that he has not reached GS finals were peak Tsonga, peak Gonzalez and peak Murray (US Open 2008 were Murray´s peak IMO). Also, he reached the semis at the TMC in 2006 and 2007.
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and yet if you compare him to today's top players he was mediocre
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I was bored and was wondering how often the Big 3 had to beat a top 5 opponent whenever they won a slam. Soooo.....

Djokovic
Slam titles: 4
Top 5 opponents faced: 7
Number of top 5 opponents per title: 1.75

Nadal
Slam titles: 10
Top 5 opponents faced: 13
Number of top 5 opponents per title: 1.3
(NOTE: Nadal faced 6 top 5 opponents during his first 4 slam wins [vs. Djokovic's 7])

Federer
Slam titles: 16
Top 5 opponents he faced: 19
Number of top 5 opponents per title: 1.19
(NOTE: Federer faced 6 top 5 opponents during his first 4 slam wins [vs. Djokovic's 7 & Nadal's 6] and 12 top 5 opponents during his first 10 slam wins [vs. Nadal's 13]. Also, he didn't play a single top 5 seed in two of his slam titles: the 2007 Australian Open [10th slam] & Wimbledon 2009 [15th slam])


Hmmmm....
Interesting statistics and have several comments:

1) Each GS started with the top 5 seeds present so it is not Federer's fault that they lost. Federer does hold the longest winning streak against top 10 players of 26 from 2003 to 2005 so may have beaten a top 5 player:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...cs_and_records

2) Could indicate a marginal reduction in the depth of the field resulting in fewer upsets so top players progress more often to later stages to lose.

3) An advantage of being seeded 1/2 is you tend to face 7/8 in the quarter final while 3/4 face 5/6 in the quarter final. A higher ranking reduces you chance of facing number 5 in the quarter final.

4) In the end you can only beat the player in front of you.
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Gotta love top 4 tards commenting on players they never watch. Gonzo at the AO 2007 was probably one of the hottest GS streaks a player has ever been on.
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Show some respect for champions of the past, gloryhunter.
screw Laver .....anyway a gloryhunter is a person that supports a player only because he is winning ...need I remind you that Nole was not winning shit in the past 3 years
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screw Laver .....anyway a gloryhunter is a person that supports a player only because he is winning ...need I remind you that Nole was not winning shit in the past 3 years
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Not a gloryhunter for sure.

You are beginning to really establish yourself as one of the worst posters here with Clay Fail, Failerko, tard da fail and Tospin Failtor.


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Top 8:
Nadal 18 >> 1,8
Federer 27 >> 1,69
(29 would be 1,81)
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Not a gloryhunter for sure.

You are beginning to really establish yourself as one of the worst posters here with Clay Fail, Failerko, tard da fail and Tospin Failtor.


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what does that prove?nothing ...I have been visiting these forums since 2006 I think...I never joined till Feb 2011...and even then Novak had like 1 tournament win AO at that point
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It's common knowledge that Federer faced a bunch of mugs in most of his slam wins. We didn't need actual statistics, but this is nice either way.
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Oh, boy, the amount of hate for Djoko these tards raise is amazing. I mean if you guys had at least SOME tennis knowledge and TRIED to objectively look at things we would not have to explain to you stuff from 2-3 years ago. Really, shame you will leave once your boy starts getting spanked around. I hope it doesn't happen too soon since he seems to have decided to play attacking tennis and the pig apparently believes he can still beat him so I would to see some more roasting.
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Oh, boy, the amount of hate for Djoko these tards raise is amazing. I mean if you guys had at least SOME tennis knowledge and TRIED to objectively look at things we would not have to explain to you stuff from 2-3 years ago. Really, shame you will leave once your boy starts getting spanked around. I hope it doesn't happen too soon since he seems to have decided to play attacking tennis and the pig apparently believes he can still beat him so I would to see some more roasting.
wow you really hate Nadal huh?
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