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Old 01-03-2012, 06:32 AM   #31
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i like your style.

you're like the typical southern english tory chav, aren't you? i wonder what you're doing in australia....

im not sure who i prefer, BH or you. i feel the differences are more in the form than in the content. while one expresses his points in a rather pompous and sarcastic manner like some type of neo-con hawk, the other is more of the average clown you could find semi drunk downing his pint in the bar around the corner. two different fellas but at the end the story repeats itself. it is as they say: same shit, different bucket.
Let's start of with basic geography: New Zealand when I'm not in England

There are no tory chavs. That's an oxymoron. I am of no specific political party. Interesting that you'd use "right-winger" as an intended insult, it fell really short and comrade i feel your pain.

I feel it needs to be repeated: all the advanced little things in your life, things that make your life much better, come from the western world you hate so much.

Get rid of that chip on your shoulder whilst you still are sane.
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:54 AM   #32
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Ummm....they don't want that, being as they are heavily subsidised by the British taxpayer.
Can you point me in the direction of some internet link stating how much the subsidy is?

I saw a programme some while ago and they were saying about being self sufficient...

or do you mean the subsidy as the cost of the military we have there?

btw have you seen the pictures of the events of 1982?
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We give Brazil £9 billion in annual aid
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Soon Brazil will give back whatever it owes to the UK in the form of an IMF aid.
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The only reason Fernández has upped the rhetoric on the Falklands is because it's a vote winner. Argentina has no no more 'right' to them than Australia has to New Caledonia.
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Reading between the lines, Prince William is there to buy us a few more weeks to get some more hardware down there because the Argentinians know it would be a PR disaster to attack when he is there in a humanitarian S&R role. The rhetoric coming out of Argentina is the same as it was in 1982 and I'm afraid it's not a question of "if" but rather "when".

Personally I'd sail a Nuclear submarine to remind them how things can go down. Says a lot about Argentine brains when they ignore their crumbling economy to worry about the Falklands, they're being punked by the Government.
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Reading between the lines, Prince William is there to buy us a few more weeks to get some more hardware down there because the Argentinians know it would be a PR disaster to attack when he is there in a humanitarian S&R role. The rhetoric coming out of Argentina is the same as it was in 1982 and I'm afraid it's not a question of "if" but rather "when".

Personally I'd sail a Nuclear submarine to remind them how things can go down. Says a lot about Argentine brains when they ignore their crumbling economy to worry about the Falklands, they're being punked by the Government.
LOL you are so paranoid. In 1982 we had a dictatorship that was spent. A dictatorship that killed thousands of innocent civils (socialists, anarchists, journalists, intellectuals, and whoever they thought would somehow try to fight for a different system) in order to impose a neoliberal economy that years later led us to a big crisis in every aspect.

They made the war to have a reason for keeping the power. They lost it. Most of Argentinian high range militars were coward and sent the kids to fight.
It's sad but you cant judge the regular population for that. What the hell is the UK doing on islands that are 400 miles far away from our country, in our sea, which they re-occupied in 1833 throwing away the Argentinian gobernament that was established there. We are a country since 1810.
That should be discussed and negociated. We should be able to fix this without wars. And we will be able, because Argentina is not planning a war.

Anyway, don't think there's a war coming in. Argentina don't need nor want wars. It's David Cameron who is trying to bring this issue to another level by making stupid statements and trying to make you ignore the important problems of your kingdom. Your media is probably reproducing them as they would be certain.

We won't make a war. We want a peaceful resolution. And yes, it's a pity that due to a stupid dictatorship war we have now to carry the weight of being those who made a war 30 years ago. But things have changed.

Being objetive I can say that both governments have reasons to confuse it's people by giving to much importance to things that should not be so important. But the whole point of my post is, that we don't want a war. Tell me one signal that makes you think that we are thinking about a war.

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1. The Islands were under British rule before Argentina was even a country.

2. The citizens of the Falklands took a democratic referendum and decided not to be independent and remain under British rule.

3. Falklands are not even in Argentine waters.

4. Argentina is only bringing this up again because oil and gas may be in Falkland waters.

5. The UK is not going negotiate ownership of something it already owns.

Fact: there is nothing to negotiate about and any further Argentine aggressions may be considered an act of war and will be dealt with appropriately. The Royal Navy is already sending the new hi-tech HMS Dauntless in the event Argentina tries something silly.


P.S. Is your economy something you should be more concerned about?
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We won't make a war. We want a peaceful resolution. And yes, it's a pity that due to a stupid dictatorship war we have now to carry the weight of being those who made a war 30 years ago. But things have changed.
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You are not up to date. It is already resolved. They are British!
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Who the fuck's arsed???

Why do both nations want these little islands with their small villages so badly?????

UK put so much taxpayers' money into it.. why?

Argentina want an Anglicized, British way of life island. Are you gonna force them to speak Spanish and start listening to tango music??? why???

Rant over. Give them independence, let them live alone without the tax benefits. And let them join CONMEBOL and get their arse spanked in every qualification game, lol.
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Who the fuck's arsed???

Why do both nations want these little islands with their small villages so badly?????
Unfortunately it's about pride. No nation wants to appear weak and give in.
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Personally I'd sail a Nuclear submarine to remind them how things can go down. Says a lot about Argentine brains when they ignore their crumbling economy to worry about the Falklands, they're being punked by the Government.
Unfortunately it's crumbling economies that cause these irrational conflicts. President Kirchner is probably losing support and this is the easiest way to score political points.

Notice how Argentina brings this issue up every time there's a recession.
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I feel it needs to be repeated: all the advanced little things in your life, things that make your life much better, come from the western world you hate so much.

Get rid of that chip on your shoulder whilst you still are sane.
thank "the western world" for trees and the sun!
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Unfortunately it's about pride. No nation wants to appear weak and give in.
i think thats the first and main reason but lately they've found oil near its shores and that has spiced things up quite a bit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-14925620
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