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Old 12-20-2011, 11:03 PM   #106
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Discrimination when it comes to sexual orientation is acceptable but not when it comes to the colour of the skin? lol
No its the same
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:03 PM   #107
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Margaret Court's name graces the stadium because of what she did as a player, not for her personal beliefs. Therefore, I would not support changing the name, despite not agreeing with Court's beliefs.
What if she was a neo-nazi?
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No its the same
I fail to understand what's your point, then...
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:24 PM   #109
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I wonder whether some players will refuse to play there... It would be a statement.
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I wonder whether some players will refuse to play there... It would be a statement.
IF some mug will refuse to play there, no big loss. No big name will ever boycott a slam because of someone saying something controversial. It's not possible. Most of the stink is made on the forums by very loud and vocal group anyway, I doubt most players even care.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:59 PM   #111
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I wonder whether some players will refuse to play there... It would be a statement.
I don't think it would be much of a statement. They'll probably end up in the news looking like some douchey rich kid kicking up a stink because of the name of a stadium? Would it be worth it for a player's public image to make a big deal about it – not knowing how the public will react? Most will probably go "Huh? It's just a name". The final isn't played at the Margaret Court Arena anyway, they play it at Rod Laver Arena.
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IF some mug will refuse to play there, no big loss. No big name will ever boycott a slam because of someone saying something controversial. It's not possible. Most of the stink is made on the forums by very loud and vocal group anyway, I doubt most players even care.
Pot, meet kettle.

True, ,as others have also said, it's going to be an uphill battle to encourage any players to respond. Money talks, bull--- walks in the mega-corporate sports world of today. There isn't a Martina on the front lines, or even an Amelie. The men's side is even more closeted.

I guess the "very loud and vocal group" of people should stay silent while Court uses her standing to spout off in the media?
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:13 AM   #113
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It does not pertain to the tennis at the Australian Open. It is about the political opinions of an ex-player. If threads about players' looks & families are officially Off Topic, I really don't see why threads about their political opinions aren't too. If people feel the need to engage in ritual abuse of everybody who dares to criticise current policy on homosexual matters, I wish they'd do it there.
Yes it does pertain -- tennis is going to be played at Margaret Court Arena, and there may be visible or vocal responses to Court's comments at that arena, off and on court.

The very title of this thread asks whether the name of the second biggest show court of the event should be changed.

As usual there's tons of talking down in your post -- "dares to criticize current policy on current homosexual matters." Okay, I get it, your hat's off to Ms. Court for her daring. If that's not what you mean, then consider your words.

As inferred by another poster above, people are so glib and condescending about homophobia, treating it as trivial, when they aren't that way about other forms of prejudice.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:46 AM   #114
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I could think of a thousand worse things to do to her but this could be a good start.

I don't understand anyone who's so vehemently against gay marriage - how does it affect you in any way? If two people want to get married and spend their lives together, what does have to do with you? And don't give me that bullshit about the sanctity of marriage when people like Britney Spears can have a 55 hour marriage and Elizabeth Taylor can get married 7 times and it's okay and it's legal because they're straight and they're marrying people of the opposite sex? Give me a break. I've even heard of a Christian pastor who's been married 20x and I'm sure God does not look too kindly upon that either, but because he's sticking it in a woman and not a man, it's okay and doesn't offend the sensibilities of conservatives? SMH at this world and its double standards.
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Of course not .She has the freedom of speech and that should not put a blot on her tennis achievements
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:49 AM   #116
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What if she was a neo-nazi?
What if she was?

You have to ask the Australian Open if they named the court in honor of Court's tennis achievements or because of her personal beliefs?

I think we all know the answer.
Her name will stay.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:35 AM   #117
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What if she was?

You have to ask the Australian Open if they named the court in honor of Court's tennis achievements or because of her personal beliefs?

I think we all know the answer.
Her name will stay.
She's free to have personal beliefs but so are the Australian Open organisers - when it comes to the reputation of the game -

You ask so what if she was a neo-nazi - exactly what kind of a message would TA be sending if they allowed all the Jewish/Muslim/non-white players to play in a stadium names after someone who thinks they're inferior beings!
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You ask so what if she was a neo-nazi - exactly what kind of a message would TA be sending if they allowed all the Jewish/Muslim/non-white players to play in a stadium names after someone who thinks they're inferior beings!
It would make the statement that the views of the person concerned were irrelevant.
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Yes it does pertain -- tennis is going to be played at Margaret Court Arena, and there may be visible or vocal responses to Court's comments at that arena, off and on court.

The very title of this thread asks whether the name of the second biggest show court of the event should be changed.

As usual there's tons of talking down in your post -- "dares to criticize current policy on current homosexual matters." Okay, I get it, your hat's off to Ms. Court for her daring. If that's not what you mean, then consider your words.

As inferred by another poster above, people are so glib and condescending about homophobia, treating it as trivial, when they aren't that way about other forms of prejudice.
It does not pertain any more than a player's looks or families do. Players who play at the A.O. are still going to be visible, aren't they? Their families are likely to be courtside, no?

I don't mean to talk down to anybody; I simply find modern-day p.c. censoriousness breathtakingly arrogant & stupid & impossible to take seriously. Obviously the phrase you quote is ironic, but the point stands: there is indeed a large & vocal lobby on this forum that has a pack mentality when it comes to any statement less than glowingly celebratory about homosexuality.

As for other forms of "prejudice" (i.e., adverse statements about p.c.-protected groups), I regard them all as trivial if confined to words.
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It would make the statement that the views of the person concerned were irrelevant.
that's were we split...it says we endorse what she says and your feelings are irrelevant
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