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Old 12-11-2011, 01:09 AM   #31
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Nole is a classic defensive baseliner.
And yet he smacks it back so well at his opponent heavy topspin, doesn't he?
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:12 AM   #32
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And yet he smacks it back so well at his opponent heavy topspin, doesn't he?
Defensive baseliner doesn't mean you can't have offense. Pusher is what Mugray is, not Djoker.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:15 AM   #33
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Nole is a classic defensive baseliner.
I don't agree. Monfils is the classic defensive player. What I would call a pure retriever.

Novak doesn't play that way at all. His court positioning (when its up to him) is much more advanced, and he hits the ball with much more authority (from both wings) and deeper. Its still relatively low risk tennis, but its not exactly pure defensive play.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:23 AM   #34
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I don't agree. Monfils is the classic defensive player. What I would call a pure retriever.

Novak doesn't play that way at all. His court positioning (when its up to him) is much more advanced, and he hits the ball with much more authority (from both wings) and deeper. Its still relatively low risk tennis, but its not exactly pure defensive play.
This is what I noticed as well.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:28 AM   #35
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I also noticed the times he's conservative and feeds the ball back to the opponent it is usually during rallies where he doesn't have enough time to set himself up for a winner or wide angle type shot (in other words he doesn't intentionally choose to play defensively in these moments). So he'll stay in the rally and wait for that moment where he has enough time to set either his forehand/backhand for that high level shot and unleash it.

I think the only time he might be a bit more defensive/conservative is during some tiebreaks. But even then, in most occasions against the big players, he'll still take a high risk approach when he knows he can't play too conservative (i.e. match points against Federer).
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he's like davydenko, only less aggresive, less talented, less fair-play oriented and a lot less funny
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he's like davydenko, only less aggresive, less talented, less fair-play oriented and a lot less funny
1) Baldenko was accused of fixing multiple matches. How does that constitute "fair play"?

2) "Less Talented"? How come Baldenko doesn't even have a single slam final in his entire career?
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Djokovic is more offensive than Federer or Nadal but could be considered defensive when facing someone like Del Potro.
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Djokovic is more offensive than Federer or Nadal but could be considered defensive when facing someone like Del Potro.
Agreed totally Love it when Djokovic hits down the line half volley winners off both forehand and backhand wings. He does it generally when he has nothing to lose. I remember his Montreal match against Federer in 2010. He was hitting magical winners off both wings late in the 3rd set and Federer was lucky to win that match. Federer himself said in the interview that there was nothing he could do during periods of the match. Djokovic's forehand has improved ALOT. It has become more of a weapon and he is a well rounded player now. The right mix of defense and offense which is essential to dominate like Dkojo has done so remarkably well in 2011. Hats off to a historical season!
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I don't really see him as an attacker. He applies a lot of very controlled pressure in rallies but he ups the ante when playing Federer. Against Nadal he's very patient and often chooses not to attack, he seems in control of the whole situation so he can play a more patient and strategic game. His style varies, I don't see him as a defender or an attacker, he's somewhere in the middle and can play boring or exciting tennis when he feels like it.
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Disagree rather a lot
Mine:
1 Tsonga
2 Almagro
3 Federer
4 Tipsarevic
5 Berdych
6 Djokovic
7 Fish
8 Ferrer
9 Nadal
10 Murray

Every match Fish plays, he pushes more
Yeh, Fish has no right to be at no.2... he can sometimes turn it on but very often plays a patient and somewhat negative game.
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he's like davydenko, only less aggresive, less talented, less fair-play oriented and a lot less funny
Yes !
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1) Baldenko was accused of fixing multiple matches. How does that constitute "fair play"?

2) "Less Talented"? How come Baldenko doesn't even have a single slam final in his entire career?
To you i can only say DJOKOVIC HAVEN'T FACED PEAKERER/JESUSFED/GODERER ! when Davydenko failed to him 5 times at important times in slams !
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To you i can only say DJOKOVIC HAVEN'T FACED PEAKERER/JESUSFED/GODERER ! when Davydenko failed to him 5 times at important times in slams !
Exactly. Federer would have been capable of rivaling Michael Jordan had he taken up basketball instead. There is a difference between a very good player and an almighty towering God of sport, class and brilliance.
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lol @ way too much in here
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