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Old 12-10-2011, 09:49 PM   #16
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I blame political correctness. I weep for my country.
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:55 PM   #17
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if that's how the British civil courts treat them might as well leave them to Islamic judges, at least they would be lashed 80 times each according to Sharia law for drinking
The kicking of a woman in the head would probably not warrant any charges according to Sharia law, just the drinking?

Until I looked at the video I assumed the attackers were men. Surprise!
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"A girl gang of Somali Muslims who repeatedly kicked a woman in the head during a drunken attack were spared jail after a judge heard that their religion meant they were not used to drinking."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ked-woman.html

What kind of world are we living in? Beyond stupid.
This atheist says the title of your thread should be ''Another reason why Britain is a joke."

Seems the judge said, "Oh, it wasn't a hate crime, that's all right then. Carry on."
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:06 PM   #19
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And how far has Britain gone down the shitter when an English woman is beaten in her own country by hostile invaders just for being English and white. Unbelievable but not surprising. Britain has done injustice to other nations that had the courage to defend their countries, and this is the divine punishment. What goes around, comes around.
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"A girl gang of Somali Muslims who repeatedly kicked a woman in the head during a drunken attack were spared jail after a judge heard that their religion meant they were not used to drinking."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ked-woman.html

What kind of world are we living in? Beyond stupid.
Religion was always a joke, especially Islam and their horrific violence towards "infidels", which is making its way into Western world. And with so many soft cock politicians, I wouldn't be surprised if free and democratic countries will adopt Sharia law in the future. If these immigrants want to worship some non-existent deity and some joke prophet, they should stay in their own countries and not try to impose their backward ways upon normal people.
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Here's another rant: there is a great saying: "When in Rome, do as Romans do".

It's a saying that I always respected. When I lived in Japan and visited Japanese associates, I was expected to take my shoes off when entering their home. I was expected to bring gifts, so I did. I tried my best to master keigo and tried my best to lose the image of the ignorant gaijin who disrespected the local customs, citing ignorance.

I am absolutely disgusted at the people arriving to Australia on good faith and then trying to force their customs and beliefs upon the local population. We shouldn't be forced to tolerate it. We shouldn't be forced to accomodate these violent, backward religions, who are only promoting violence in peaceful, countries like Australia. If you come to us, be ready to follow our laws, our customs, or we don't want you. The levels of political correctness the West has reached is ridiculous. I feel like we are losing our cultural identity. And why? We never invited boatloads of refugees into our country. Yet once we accept them, they bitch about their rights being oppressed. What's next? Sharia law for the West? This is getting ridiculous.
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The kicking of a woman in the head would probably not warrant any charges according to Sharia law, just the drinking?
I said that in jest
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Here's another rant: there is a great saying: "When in Rome, do as Romans do".

It's a saying that I always respected. When I lived in Japan and visited Japanese associates, I was expected to take my shoes off when entering their home. I was expected to bring gifts, so I did. I tried my best to master keigo and tried my best to lose the image of the ignorant gaijin who disrespected the local customs, citing ignorance.

I am absolutely disgusted at the people arriving to Australia on good faith and then trying to force their customs and beliefs upon the local population. We shouldn't be forced to tolerate it. We shouldn't be forced to accomodate these violent, backward religions, who are only promoting violence in peaceful, countries like Australia. If you come to us, be ready to follow our laws, our customs, or we don't want you. The levels of political correctness the West has reached is ridiculous. I feel like we are losing our cultural identity. And why? We never invited boatloads of refugees into our country. Yet once we accept them, they bitch about their rights being oppressed. What's next? Sharia law for the West? This is getting ridiculous.
Wow I didn't know all this was happening in Australia. In the U.S. we are getting mad that when we call a company we are told to press 1 if we want to continue in English! And then those of us that are getting mad are called intolerant And our government won't make English the National Language to put a stop to all of this now. If I had the money to visit let alone live in another country; I would follow their ways instead of expecting them to follow mine, but that is not the way the world works any more
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There is actually no such thing as Islamic law, but of course the Western media which wants only a convenient term to characterise one very extreme interpretation of the Koran doesn't understand this - or more likely, doesn't really give a shit.

Way to go, also, to make this stupid ruling about religion when it's really the judge who made a joke of a ruling.
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Here's another rant: there is a great saying: "When in Rome, do as Romans do".

It's a saying that I always respected. When I lived in Japan and visited Japanese associates, I was expected to take my shoes off when entering their home. I was expected to bring gifts, so I did. I tried my best to master keigo and tried my best to lose the image of the ignorant gaijin who disrespected the local customs, citing ignorance.

I am absolutely disgusted at the people arriving to Australia on good faith and then trying to force their customs and beliefs upon the local population. We shouldn't be forced to tolerate it. We shouldn't be forced to accomodate these violent, backward religions, who are only promoting violence in peaceful, countries like Australia. If you come to us, be ready to follow our laws, our customs, or we don't want you. The levels of political correctness the West has reached is ridiculous. I feel like we are losing our cultural identity. And why? We never invited boatloads of refugees into our country. Yet once we accept them, they bitch about their rights being oppressed. What's next? Sharia law for the West? This is getting ridiculous.
I respect the first half of your post. The second half is just a bunch of generalising bullshit. I might be more inclined to be sympathetic to your cultural identity being eroded by these backwards and violent immigrants if you actually gave concrete examples.

The last time I visited Australia, those of the same race as me spoke with an Australian accent. Forgive me if I fail to see what you're complaining about.
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There is actually no such thing as Islamic law


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Muslims believe sharia is God's law, but they differ as to what exactly it entails.
According to Western media, Islamic law = Taliban's interpretation. That is simply not true. There is no one Islamic law, but many different interpretations. In this sense, the term Islamic law is actually quite meaningless.
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According to Western media, Islamic law = Taliban's interpretation. That is simply not true. There is no one Islamic law, but many different interpretations. In this sense, the term Islamic law is actually quite meaningless.
big difference between saying "no such thing as Islamic law" and "no one Islamic law"

no Muslim can deny direct laws such as flogging for adultery or drinking alcohol, amputation for theft etc, some argue about how much proof is needed for its implementation, but once enough proof is presented no Muslim can say "there is no punishment for adultery, drinking or theft according to Islam"
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big difference between saying "no such thing as Islamic law" and "no one Islamic law"

no Muslim can deny direct laws such as flogging for adultery or drinking alcohol, amputation for theft etc, some argue about how much proof is needed for its implementation, but once enough proof is presented no Muslim can say "there is no punishment for adultery, drinking or theft according to Islam"
Okay, I should have phrased my original post better. My problem, though, with the way the phrase "Islamic law" is used in the media is that it implies a fixed interpretation of the rules that applies to Muslims which is a very narrow view of the Islamic legal tradition. I wish they'd say Islamic law instead of Shari'a law too, because the latter phrase is quite inaccurate. But I realise this is just a question of semantics.
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The kicking of a woman in the head would probably not warrant any charges according to Sharia law, just the drinking?
That is simply not true.
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