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Old 12-05-2011, 10:13 PM   #31
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Yeah, if abraxas and I agree, then something is just plain wrong, no matter from what perspective.
can't disagree with that.

in general terms, the idea of MTF slow degradation into a nanny website doesnt appeal my good taste at all. history shows us that censoring words is the first step. next thing you know and scoobs will be kicking into your door and put you in a concentration camp.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:32 PM   #32
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Going back to earlier issue, I can't goodrep abraxas21 for above comment
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Here's a third for uncensoring "ra-pe." I understand the purposes for which it was done, but as you suggested scoobs, it is probably best to handle its abuse with individual warnings or infractions.
What I don’t understand is why that word is censored, but motherfucker is not.
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I would like color to be changed.

Give another chance to banned posters.

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What I don’t understand is why that word is censored, but motherfucker is not.
Well, in the strictest sense of the world, motherfucker basically means someone who has sex with another person's mother. Fuck is slang for sex, and there's nothing wrong with sex itself.

R*pe is violation, usually sexually and often violently and there really isn't anything positive about it.
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:40 PM   #36
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I am not posting or reading this forum anymore, but what you should change is the transparency in the admin/mod actions. Often users are banned, no one knows why, and most of the times the user is banned for a doubtful act/event.

I have even been banned for 6 months by one admin, from which i received and insult in my ban message. Literally 2 minutes after I did the post for which I got banned. This meant he also pulled the trigger by himself. SHouldnt bans be at least discussed with one more admin? In this way just by personal things you can get banned...

I am talking from my experience, and i know there have been lots of cases like this.


Also since mods arent getting paid, and there are other users who would gladly make the job, i think mods should be at least go through a period of voting or some sort of town approval. I found that most users do not like some of the mods and think they are not the correct ones for their jobs.

Also its very very annoying that you cant talk about tennis on GM because the forum is full of trolls insulting each other, and making no posts about real tennis, basically the forum is destroyed to read or talk about tennis and is destroyed to socialize because of external forces.

You should re consider your methods before this place completely collapses.
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Default Re: 2011 What Would You Change About MTF? thread

Basically, move away from the Amish/Victorian makeover this site has experienced the last few months.

Here are a few ideas that would set us in the right direction:

1- stop deleting all wacky threads. A big part of your membership is OK with having fun while discussing tennis.

2- stop deleting popular threads questioning moderation calls, especially those started by senseful posters.

3- more transparent moderation.

4- permaban CD and SdG, enough already...

5- have AJ apologize for my ACC seeding.

6 have a youtube link tool imbedded.

7- new emoticons ...

8- have all thread started by Nole spam posted directly in the Nole subforum and then have them screened by a mod in the before they appear in GM to see if they actually belong in GM.


9- restore the ACC in it glory with 24h voting periods, with a bigger and fairer selection and seeding committees.

10- accept my candidacy as a mod.
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Disallow posters from refusing to participate in ACC.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:23 AM   #39
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Well, in the strictest sense of the world, motherfucker basically means someone who has sex with another person's mother. Fuck is slang for sex, and there's nothing wrong with sex itself.

R*pe is violation, usually sexually and often violently and there really isn't anything positive about it.

Of course there is not anything positive about the act of ****, but it’s not the word itself that is offensive. It is not offensive to write a news article saying that someone has been accused of **** etc. The word **** is not a swear word or a word that cannot be used in polite society. Of course, it is wrong to lightly accuse someone of being a rapist or of ****** someone. That is a different thing than the word itself being offensive or a swear word.

As I understand it, “fuck” is not slang. It is a curse word. Using slang and cursing are much different. The term motherfucker is used exclusively as an insulting swear word, and is not used as slang for having sex with someone else’s mother. As I have always understood the word, it is used as a curse word to claim the worst about a person, i.e. having sex with his own mother, and not someone else’s mother.

For example, Rubens entitling his painting The **** of the Sabine Women is not offensive, but calling it The Fucking of the Sabine Women would be.
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This is fair, but it's really not that hard to type "{youtube} {/youtube}" (brackets changed so it would appear).
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What I don’t understand is why that word is censored, but motherfucker is not.
Many people are offended by r**e, but nobody is offended by motherfucker. Go figure.

Unfortunately the complaints seem to be about people using the word to describe a bad beating of a favoured player in GM. Nothing to do with a discussion in NT, but we suffer from collateral damage.
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I would be curious if there could be a special forum where only knowledgeable and smart posters could post.
They would have to have a proven track record of non-trolling, but the number of posters should be large enough so that they could achieve a critical mass for discussion, jokes and arguments. The forum would have a link from GM, and would be readable by everybody.

The list of selected posters should be at the mods discretion, maybe with popular suggestions (but not direct vote. It'd end up being a popularity contest like DWTS). There would be regular additions, and yes, sometimes you could lose the ability to post there.

Posters like Sjensgter, NYCtennisfan, scoobs, Chloe le Bopper, Henry Chinaski.
Even Action Jackson, who, while knowledgeable, has too little patience with lesser posters, might work in that setting.

As a lurker, I miss discussions from years ago when you could post a thread about "Fed beat Nadal", and it would be mostly about tennis and smart jokes, instead of endless posts about "Nadal sucks", "Fed sucks more", yadda-yadda.

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That was done because the word has been used excessively (and offensively to many) in regards to tennis results. Perhaps I can look in to whether it could be un *** for NT or just *** for GM. Or perhaps a better solution is to un *** but use infractions against people who use it in a tennis context.
I found the repeated usage of that word in a tennis context disgusting, although I didn't complain.
Having it back in non-tennis would be good.
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I agree that the reps should be unlimited -- or at least reps to different posters

I don't like how the IMG button works; I don't want that stupid pop-up, with the "http://" in there (duh... I've already copied the http:// from my browser address bar ). Then I have to click inside, select the http so I can paste over it, then paste, then click 'OK'. Practically it's easier to just type all the damn code yourself. Just have it drop in the code for you like it does with bold or italic or others, with your cursor in the middle & then you just paste. Much faster.
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I would be curious if there could be a special forum where only knowledgeable and smart posters could post.
They would have to have a proven track record of non-trolling, but the number of posters should be large enough so that they could achieve a critical mass for discussion, jokes and arguments. The forum would have a link from GM, and would be readable by everybody.

The list of selected posters should be at the mods discretion, maybe with popular suggestions (but not direct vote. It'd end up being a popularity contest like DWTS). There would be regular additions, and yes, sometimes you could lose the ability to post there.

Posters like Sjensgter, NYCtennisfan, scoobs, Chloe le Bopper, Henry Chinaski.
Even Action Jackson, who, while knowledgeable, has too little patience with lesser posters, might work in that setting.

As a lurker, I miss discussions from years ago when you could post a thread about "Fed beat Nadal", and it would be mostly about tennis and smart jokes, instead of endless posts about "Nadal sucks", "Fed sucks more", yadda-yadda.



I found the repeated usage of that word in a tennis context disgusting, although I didn't complain.
Having it back in non-tennis would be good.
So you want an exclusive sub-forum with about 20 posters in it?
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