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Old 10-01-2012, 07:56 PM   #1381
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Hey guys, in Sacramento, lolada_ 4 sent to Freak3yman who posted the OOP but it was clear to send to me and I posted less then a half hour later with the OOP

Should I accept the picks?
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Hey guys, in Sacramento, lolada_ 4 sent to Freak3yman who posted the OOP but it was clear to send to me and I posted less then a half hour later with the OOP

Should I accept the picks?
By the rule, you will don't accept. But, you decide.
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oh the indvidual manager decides? I do kinda feel bad cause I would have posted the OOP on time, I just didn't see it then I was doing something else..but on the other hand, it was pretty clear who to send to.
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:08 PM   #1384
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oh the indvidual manager decides? I do kinda feel bad cause I would have posted the OOP on time, I just didn't see it then I was doing something else..but on the other hand, it was pretty clear who to send to.
No, the picks should not be accepted.

I must say that I find the whole situation uncalled-for.
Please at least delete the other OOP when the real manager posts his OOP to avoid confusion.


I think we should keep managerīs tasks managerīs tasks and playerīs tasks playerīs tasks.
When someone asks for help it is very nice to help out, but generally managers should be responsible for the OOP, only if help seems really needed, like when the time for sending picks is running out or when it is getting very late local time it should be given.
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No, the picks should not be accepted.

I must say that I find the whole situation uncalled-for.
Please at least delete the other OOP when the real manager posts his OOP to avoid confusion.


I think we should keep managerīs tasks managerīs tasks and playerīs tasks playerīs tasks.
When someone asks for help it is very nice to help out, but generally managers should be responsible for the OOP, only if help seems really needed, like when the time for sending picks is running out or when it is getting very late local time it should be given.
Agreed on all this!
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:07 PM   #1386
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No, the picks should not be accepted.

I must say that I find the whole situation uncalled-for.
Please at least delete the other OOP when the real manager posts his OOP to avoid confusion.


I think we should keep managerīs tasks managerīs tasks and playerīs tasks playerīs tasks.
When someone asks for help it is very nice to help out, but generally managers should be responsible for the OOP, only if help seems really needed, like when the time for sending picks is running out or when it is getting very late local time it should be given.
I made the OOP for a player who said it was getting late for them though... It's not like I did it for laughs and giggles

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I made the OOP for a player who said it was getting late for them though... It's not like I did it for laughs and giggles

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I know you are trying to help and I donīt want to discourage you from helping generally.
But the way it was done lead to confusion in this case.

As you saw orangehat wrote in the Belem thread that he needs some help.
Players can see that someone else will post the OOP there now.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:08 AM   #1388
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I feel I may not have made myself completely clear recently when you said about writing up an explanation about how to do OOP’s, etc. I fully agreed with the thought in my mind of it being an additional aid to any new managers wanting to give it a try, and it might have possibly been read as me agreeing that all players should actually do these tasks.

I also wouldn't want you to feel discouraged.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:26 AM   #1389
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I know you are trying to help and I donīt want to discourage you from helping generally.
But the way it was done lead to confusion in this case.

As you saw orangehat wrote in the Belem thread that he needs some help.
Players can see that someone else will post the OOP there now.
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I feel I may not have made myself completely clear recently when you said about writing up an explanation about how to do OOP’s, etc. I fully agreed with the thought in my mind of it being an additional aid to any new managers wanting to give it a try, and it might have possibly been read as me agreeing that all players should actually do these tasks.

I also wouldn't want you to feel discouraged.
How did I do anything differently to make it confusing? I put in size 7 font in another color to send to Lazyking

No... I've said multiple times that I made the OOP because a player said it was getting late and they were frustrated that the OOP hadn't came out. It's either inconvenience a player to the point where they might not be able to send, or run the VERY TINY risk of posting the OOP and putting very clearly in large font to send to Lazyking.
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Iīm the only one to blame! Itīs normal ask for someone else post the OOP, because we have our lifes! And Lazyking did a great work!!

Today I have school, so I did my picks very fast,I saw the OOP I just copy and send, I didnīt saw the part "send to (...)" and I dinīt see if he is the manager or not! So Iīm the only that is wrong!
And thanks Freak3yman84 too. And you did not make antyhing to make it confusing!

Cīmon itīs just a game!! Itīs only to have fun!
I didnīt see the problem to send my picks to my doubles partner and for other guy, if I can do a print-scream to comprove that I send my picks before the deadline!

And with so many rules so many rules, picks send 1 minute after the deadline donīt count (and more things) some rules that in my opinion takes fun to the game and creates that people donīt want to play anymore or do a break...

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And with so many rules so many rules, picks send 1 minute after the deadline donīt count (and more things) some rules that in my opinion takes fun to the game and creates that people donīt want to play anymore or do a break...

Sorry for my bad english
The reason why you can’t go a minute past deadline is because you’ll then have it 3 minutes late the next day, 10 minutes the day after – then next week someone will complain that the diffs have been posted on time when last week they were posted 5 minutes late and Mr X sent 2 minutes late and his picks were counted then but they’re not this week and so on and so on.
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The reason why you can’t go a minute past deadline is because you’ll then have it 3 minutes late the next day, 10 minutes the day after – then next week someone will complain that the diffs have been posted on time when last week they were posted 5 minutes late and Mr X sent 2 minutes late and his picks were counted then but they’re not this week and so on and so on.
Yeah I understand But for example this can be like WC can have for example 3 per season, I know that will be very difficult.
But for example one time I send 1 minute after and my picks donīt accept, and is frustrating...And for example, if some guy exaggerates, this picks donīt count and can have some punishments.
And have only 5 minutes more, because 1/2 minutes is ok, but 7/10 minutes is very much!!! Because games also can have start.
And for example itīs the first time that I didnīt send my picks for the correct guy (manager), and itīs a stupid error...and I send my picks and I go to school, but for example if I stayed in home, probably I can see that a make an error.

Sorry for my bad english.
And Iīm not angry! And I donīt want to discuss, I only want to say my opinion for the best of the game, and of course I understand your point of view.
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Iīm the only one to blame! Itīs normal ask for someone else post the OOP, because we have our lifes! And Lazyking did a great work!!

Today I have school, so I did my picks very fast,I saw the OOP I just copy and send, I didnīt saw the part "send to (...)" and I dinīt see if he is the manager or not! So Iīm the only that is wrong!
And thanks Freak3yman84 too. And you did not make antyhing to make it confusing!

Cīmon itīs just a game!! Itīs only to have fun!
I didnīt see the problem to send my picks to my doubles partner and for other guy, if I can do a print-scream to comprove that I send my picks before the deadline!

And with so many rules so many rules, picks send 1 minute after the deadline donīt count (and more things) some rules that in my opinion takes fun to the game and creates that people donīt want to play anymore or do a break...

Sorry for my bad english
Thanks! Sorry for the circumstances Good repped
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We decide not to make any compromise to anyone, because you can't one time accept picks 2 minutes late and sometime you can.
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