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Old 11-17-2011, 01:45 AM   #31
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Not in the Luczak wc camp myself. He's had a solid career but it's not as if he's won a 250 like an Arthurs, Ilie or Draper. I feel that is the measuring stick for a sympathetic wildcard which this would be .
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I guess years of service and hard work shouldn't be rewarded then? Not like the other guys in contention have better chances of winning a match, yes it depends on the draw but past history shows our wildcards haven't been that successful. Ball losing to Riba on HC this year, that was too good.

Looch deserves a proper farewell and I hope TA sees it this way as well. Plenty of time and opportunity for the younger guys.
All the years of hard service includes 5 previous match wins at the Australian Open from 8 appearances (6 by being granted previous wild cards), in a career with 6 wins at grand slam level (he also won a match at Wimbledon).

Peter Luczak did play 10 davis cup matches for Australia, where so far someone like Tomic has only played 6. But I guess Tomic has reached rank 41 vs a career high of 64 for Luczak, and Tomic already has more match wins at grand slam level.

Although finishing in the top 100 in 07 and 09, that also isn't probably such that a wild card is automatic, given he last won a round at the Aussie Open in 08, even if retirement is looming. He did get one last year.
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Shows just how good Tomic is really. He was dominating the juniors whereas the current youngsters are really finding it difficult. Already surpassing what the veterans have achieved at senior level before 19.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:53 AM   #34
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No way Luczak deserves a WC. He is barley played all season and i feel if you give it to him it would just be wasted because he will most likely lose. I would like to see it go to the younger players.
Well, Peter can playoffs and win. With all of our wild card Hewitt can only hope for good results, others are likely to lose 1-2 round. I think by the end of the tournament in Brisbane, will be announced only two wild cards, one who will win the playoffs, and Lleyton, the rest will depend on the tournament in Brisbane.
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I want to remind everyone in 1997, Lleyton made ​​his debut at the age of 15 years in АО, and he was not given a wild card, he gets qualifies. It's that young is better to play qualify, it will harden their character.
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are you seriously saying lleyton shouldn't get a wildcard?
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are you seriously saying lleyton shouldn't get a wildcard?
I did not write this. Him the must give a wild card.
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are you seriously saying lleyton shouldn't get a wildcard?
He is trying to say that Luczak should be given a WC rather then the younger players because its better for them to go through quallies because it build character. Am i correct?
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:55 AM   #39
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He is trying to say that Luczak should be given a WC rather then the younger players because its better for them to go through quallies because it build character. Am i correct?
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Jones is better placed but has only risen 50 places in the last year so only if there is no one more deserving.

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Mmm - only risen 50 places...

Let's see -
Ball - dropped say 200 places
Matosevic - dropped say 60 places
Guccione - dropped say 80 places (not finished though)
who else - Lemke - dropped about 40 places
Klein - dropped maybe 300 places
Millman - where is he?

Jonesie has had a good year in comparison rising 50 places, playing on the Challenger circuit, no easier Futures events, and with a full season points to defend.
He has qualified for two ATP events and got to the 3rd (final) round of qualies at the Oz Open & US Open (losing to the No.1 and No.7 seed respectively, both ranked in the top 100 at the time).
He has only ever received 1 ATP singles WC from TA - and is still No.4 in Australia. Unlike how many WC's for Ball? umpteen for Gooch? as for Klein - all wasted. Now is the time to give Jonesie the opportunity he deserves for a solid year. Last year Ball had a miserbale end of season but was rewarded for an overall good year. (A bit of nepotism there if U ask me.)

Agree Mitchell, Duckworth and Jipper have had great rises in rankings this year, but all with no points to defend. Easier to rise plenty of places in the rankings, especially when worse than 400 in the rankings, when not defending any points. Good luck to them but will be an interesting next year. None of them have played much at the Challenger level, never mind ATP level.

And also - Jonesie is only 22 years old compared to Luczak (30), Marinko (26), Gooch (26) and Ball (24).

It has been difficult to pick the reasons for TA giving WCs over the years...
so who knows this year?
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I note that Hewitt has not entered the Wildcard Playoff.

Tennis Australia has a policy that it won't give wildcards to players who don't enter the playoff (unless they are injured.)

Will they enforce that with Lleyton or will he claim he's injured?
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This is where common sense prevails despite the policy.
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I note that Hewitt has not entered the Wildcard Playoff.

Tennis Australia has a policy that it won't give wildcards to players who don't enter the playoff (unless they are injured.)

Will they enforce that with Lleyton or will he claim he's injured?
Craig Teeley said in september, that they will not offer even play playoffs Lleyton. Well, it should be noted that the playoffs start soon, but Lleyton only to soon be able to return to training.
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Tomic given wild card this year, he then withdrew from the playoffs, and the next day quietly practicing.
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