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Old 10-28-2011, 12:53 AM   #61
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Cromwell stayed at my house once.

My vote goes to Tutankhamun.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:56 AM   #62
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None. Loving people who are long dead and who you never met is pointless and tedious. It's a pathetic emotion. Always, people seem to look towards the past and try to idolize someone because they need some hero to look up to - what is the point? Look towards the future and live for yourself.
What an awful post.
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plato, guided by the mug of socrates . both huge moralist clowns, it must be said. the clown used to think that philosophers like him should rule the city.

aristotle wasn't that bad as the other 2 but a bit of a clown in many ways nonetheless.
The clown thing is getting a bit diluted. But you must have a list of your top 5 non-clowns in history. I am sure we would all like to see it.
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:17 AM   #64
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What an awful post.
Why is it an awful post? Why do you feel the need to love and deify long-dead people? Can't you live for yourself, following your own philosophy, your own rules, your own moral code without idolizing and admiring someone who's been dead for centuries?

One of my favorite quotes is: "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him".

Look it up and digest the meaning. We need not to have the attachment to the past and to worship someone. Focus on here and now.
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Hitler's decision to actually invade the USSR is the number one reason we're not all speaking German, mind you.
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John F. Kennedy.
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Hitler's decision to actually invade the USSR is the number one reason we're not all speaking German, mind you.
It's true. Something like 85% of German casualities in WWII happened on USSR soil. IF Hitler chose to honor the pact he signed with Stalin and decided to crush Europe and North America instead, Germany would probably be #1 superpower in the world right now, despite the fact that Yanks think they "won" WWII just because they jumped in the end for fear that the communists will "liberate" Europe and Japan.
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Yeah if Hitler hadn't made the most horrendous choice and egregious tactical error of the war then they would have won. What could have been right?
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John F. Kennedy.
Great answer. Seems like every hollywood movie these days features JFK. Get assassinated in office, live forever in the nation's mind(well unless you are McKinley and Garfield). Plus the whole ridiculous cult that was created by people obsessed with his assassination.

It's like Biggie and Pac. Both get more love because they were killed in their prime.
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Why is it an awful post? Why do you feel the need to love and deify long-dead people? Can't you live for yourself, following your own philosophy, your own rules, your own moral code without idolizing and admiring someone who's been dead for centuries?

One of my favorite quotes is: "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him".

Look it up and digest the meaning. We need not to have the attachment to the past and to worship someone. Focus on here and now.
Can't believe I'm even responding to this. Well, I will explain as simple as possible:

It is possible to learn from the great people of history and get inspiration from them. That may actually enrich our current lives and prevent us from making the same mistakes they did. "Following your own rules" has nothing to do with this at all.
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Colombus
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JFK
Robespierre (in certain circles anyway)
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Those are the important three words. They were not able to do anything until Hitler was sufficiently weakened. If Churchill had wobbled like the rest of Western Europe, then Hitler would have been across Russia to the Pacific in no time.

It would be more correct to say if not for Churchill there would have been no Soviet Union.
Nope...

It was the Siberian cold winter that destroyed Hitler and made him ignorant for even considering such an attempt. It was the Soviet Union who won the war, while Americans and Brits, falsely claimed the victory like cowards. Not to mention, if you want to get technical about it, England and America were both very happy that the Nazis invaded the Soviets, because it was almost like taking out two birds with one stone (Imperialist Germany- big competitor, and Soviet Union- another competitor/rival).

Stalin is no saint, but was clever enough to use Poland as buffer bait to increase the Soviet chance of survival by delaying enough time for a devastating winter to kick in.
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Niccolo Mugchiavelli

not really. just the first decent "mug" pun that came into my head
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Those are the important three words. They were not able to do anything until Hitler was sufficiently weakened. If Churchill had wobbled like the rest of Western Europe, then Hitler would have been across Russia to the Pacific in no time.

It would be more correct to say if not for Churchill there would have been no Soviet Union.
Soviets weren't able to do anything until they put competent generals in the field and because Stalin refused to believe that Hitler was actually going to attack despite the Soviets having spot on intelligence that the opposite was true. I would hardly say Churchill sufficiently weakened Hitler, they proved that the Luftwaffe was not invincible but obviously the British did nothing to weaken the Wehrmacht.

And Churchill himself had this to say about the Soviets:

It is the Russian Army that has done the main work of ripping the guts out of the German Army … In the air and on the ocean and the seas we can maintain ourselves, but there was no force in the world which could have been called into being except after several more years that would have been able to maul and break the German Army and subject it to such terrible slaughter and manhandling as has fallen upon the Germans but the Russian Soviet Armies.
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Why is it an awful post? Why do you feel the need to love and deify long-dead people? Can't you live for yourself, following your own philosophy, your own rules, your own moral code without idolizing and admiring someone who's been dead for centuries?

One of my favorite quotes is: "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him".

Look it up and digest the meaning. We need not to have the attachment to the past and to worship someone. Focus on here and now.
I agree, it's not that productive. That's why I hate those paper assignments in school where they always ask to list your three top idols that "influenced" you. I think it's safe to say a lot of who we are actually comes from ourselves, why does it HAVE to come from others? We're suppose to be unique.
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