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Old 10-27-2011, 07:04 PM   #31
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Aristotle. Guy was a clown.
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Aristotle. Guy was a clown.
Really? Why?
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:12 PM   #33
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Really? Why?
Because he taught men to think. Which resulted in today's world.
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Aristotle. Guy was a clown.
Aristotle is a great philosopher. More brilliant than Platon in my opinion. He could have make some mistakes but he is not a clown. Really not.
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Alexander the "Great".
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:23 PM   #36
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Aristotle. Guy was a clown.
when compared to Plato.
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:23 PM   #37
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Aristotle. Guy was a clown.
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when compared to Plato.
Can't we love both equally ? That's like picking a favorite child. (But there's no question that Plato is more "fun" or "sexy" than Aristotle).

Both of their contributions were absolutely extraordinary.
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:28 PM   #38
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Can't we love both equally ? That's like picking a favorite child. (But there's no question that Plato is more "fun" or "sexy" than Aristotle).

Both of their contributions were absolutely extraordinary.
hmm not really. they both kind of sucked

plato, guided by the mug of socrates (or at least that's what i get based on plato's work), effectively brought down everything that was beautiful about the athenian culture. the unfettered easygoing nature of the greek ethos was bounded by the made up ethical way of thinking brought by socrates and then plato. both huge moralist clowns, it must be said. plato himself was a master of the phalacies and misuse of logic in order to win an arguments. plus, plato most likely suffered from megalomanic delussions. the clown used to think that philosophers like him should rule the city.

aristotle wasn't that bad as the other 2 but a bit of a clown in many ways nonetheless.
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Its easy to diss Napoleon because he wanted to bring slavery back but lets remember that the end of the slavery was a petition of the jacobines after the Terror era; Napoleon represented the bourgesy interests and was everything but a humanist. He at least mantained the monarchy out of the power for more 15 years
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hmm not really. they both kind of sucked


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You never fail to disappoint.

I would have expected nothing less.
That's this kind of post I referred to in the other thread.
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You never fail to disappoint.

I would have expected nothing less.
sure thing, bud.

given that you can't recognize fake arguements when you read them, i can personally advise you to read 'open society and its enemies' by karl popper for a critical assesment of plato's political leanings and abudant usage of phalacies, and 'genealogy of morality' by friedrich nietzsche (he was a bit of a clown too but his critique of plato was spot on) for an assesment of plato's morals. they might help you out.

then again, i know you're a fundamentalist Christian so im not sure if those books aren't forbidden for you.
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Martin Luther. OCD nutcase who gets the love for speaking out against one sleezebag(Tetzel) and being the puppet behind the real thinker Melanchthon.
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The already mentioned Columbus + Richard Lionheart Plantagenet
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