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Old 10-13-2011, 05:03 PM   #46
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This turned out to be one interesting tournament...refreshing to see this many upsets and new names.
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:31 PM   #47
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This is not that bad. Check out Shanghai 09 for a real joke of a tourney.
Nikolay's superb tennis in the SF and F saved that one.
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I think this tournament is great. Three of my favorites in Dolgopolov, Ferrer and Flo are still in it. I also don't mind Lopez and Nishikori even though I may not be a huge fan. Ebden making a run here is a great underdog story and a testament to some hard work.

The tournament will even improve if Pics takes out Roddick. Although I doubt anyone will stop Murray now, so the last few rounds may be a bit dull.
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Ferrer/Roddick is the only one of the Quarterfinals that make any sense... and Roddick is a faded case with a really kind draw. But if Roddick beats Ferrer, you have to think he's the favorite against two players who've never made a Masters final. People will actually think Roddick's got a chance in 2012.

Murray had better make the final because this is the softest draw he'll ever see in the Quarters and Semis of a Masters event. I'd like Kei to beat Dolgopolov because a Kei/Andy semi would be the craziest crowd we've seen for an male Asian player since the Paradorn days (yes, I know this is China, not Japan but point still stands). When Andy was playing in Bangkok two weeks ago, he specifically mentioned the crowd playing against Paradorn as the most lasting part of his 2005 run to the final.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:28 PM   #50
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Overall terrible- no crowd, many top guys including Nole and Roger skipped this event, than all top guys besides Murray lost, actually if Murray didn´t win this event it will be disaster with nobody left in the draw. Ferrer is maybe 3rd highest seeded here, but besides Rafa, Berdych, Tsonga, Fish i think were most likely expected to win here- were bigger favorites than Ferrer so, 4 biggest competitors here for Murray are already out of the tournament, really Andy must win this. Only positive thing is that from those guys who take advantage of top guys being out are interresting players like Dolgo, Nishikori, Mayer.
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Overall terrible- no crowd, many top guys including Nole and Roger skipped this event, than all top guys besides Murray lost, actually if Murray didn´t win this event it will be disaster with nobody left in the draw. Ferrer is maybe 3rd highest seeded here, but besides Rafa, Berdych, Tsonga, Fish i think were most likely expected to win here- were bigger favorites than Ferrer so, 4 biggest competitors here for Murray are already out of the tournament, really Andy must win this. Only positive thing is that from those guys who take advantage of top guys being out are interresting players like Dolgo, Nishikori, Mayer.
I agree with the comment regarding the crowd, but is it really so 'terrible' to see some fresh faces make it far in the tournament? Rather the contrary I'd say. Rafa, Berdych, Tsonga and Fish were all here, and got beaten by the better player that day. You sound as if an upset should never happen...
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:50 PM   #52
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I agree with the comment regarding the crowd, but is it really so 'terrible' to see some fresh faces make it far in the tournament? Rather the contrary I'd say. Rafa, Berdych, Tsonga and Fish were all here, and got beaten by the better player that day. You sound as if an upset should never happen...
No i wrote there that positive things is that interresting players take advantage of this - Dolgo and others, but overall i mean this Shanghai is like WTA event- every top guy beaten and anybody in the draw could win - i know some people say good for th egame, but i think good for the game is when somebody from top guys is out- get beaten and somebody will make it far from unexpected guys, but not this case - that almost everyone from top guys is out- how i said besides Murray 4/5 biggest favorites here are out- i think that isn´t so great- maybe if 2/5 ok but not like this.
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yeh this is now definitely an awesome tourny.
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Default Re: When was the last time a M1000 was this bad??

I'm looking at this year's Masters and this is the only one that only had 2 seeds in the semis.

The others had at least 3 (although del Potro had a protected ranking at Indian Wells).
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This is nonsense. Here is the real fact: Masters are never very good.
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Shanghai was always a clown masters, hope the 2 bored chinese housewives watching in the stands will get their money's worth watching Pushray taking another title. Beijing WTA was better than this clownfest and that's saying a lot
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Despite me not being able to see most of it (the damn Chinese keep scheduling the interesting matches and all the Murray matches at like 4 am), so far it has been an epic tourney. Nishikori's ascent, Murray's glide, Nadal's crashing and burning. Only Juanqui's injury/loss was sad for me, that and Berdych and Simon stumbling.
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has this been good or bad? i don't really know. in that regard i must confess that haven't watched a single match of the whole freaking tournament... still, that hasn't stopped me from trolling in the match results threads that weren't of my liking.
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