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View Poll Results: Which of these compulsory 1000 level events would you drop

05.03.2012 - Hard - BNP Paribas Open, Indian Wells, USA 10 7.09%
23.03.2011 - Hard - Sony Ericsson Open, Miami, USA 16 11.35%
01.05.2011 - Clay - Mutua Madrid Open, Madrid, Spain 14 9.93%
08.05.2011 - Clay - Internazionali BNL d'Italia, Rome, Italy 10 7.09%
08.08.2011 - Hard - Rogers Cup, Montreal, Canada 6 4.26%
14.08.2011 - Hard - Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati, USA 20 14.18%
09.10.2011 - Hard - Shanghai Rolex Masters, Shanghai, China 48 34.04%
07.11.2011 - Hard - BNP Paribas Masters - Paris, France 17 12.06%
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:36 AM   #1306
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They want to knock down the Hamburg site.
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Same with Buenos Aires unless they move the event to Parca Roca.
The Hurlingham Club would be better IMO, they have a shitload of courts there.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:40 AM   #1308
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Gstaad wouldn't work. Playing at altitude of 1000m before Wimbledon, these bitches already complain about Madrid which is only 550m before RG. The weather will be very dodgy and are they going to play on cow paddocks.

Prague, well there is a thing called sponsors and very humid at that time of the year.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:44 AM   #1309
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To summarize my ideal changes:

1. Extend grass court season to 4 weeks with one Masters 1000 and two Open 500.
2. Replace San Jose and Memphis with 2 Indian grass tournaments in February in line with European hard and South American clay.
3. Downgrade Montreal from 1000 to 500 (due to Hamburg upgrade) and add Toronto 250.
4. Convert Gstaad and Stuttgart from July clay to June grass events.
5. Replace Marseille, Metz, Montpellier and Kitzbuhel with tournaments in Johannesburg, Brussels, Prague and Seoul.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:48 AM   #1310
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Canada is not getting downgraded, so why downgrade an old traditional event which is well supported in both cities to replace it with Hamburg.

Jimi, you don't think this clearly. Lack of money in Joburg hence the tournament lost the licence. Indian grass events not happening either.

Stuttgart got no interest or need to change surface.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:51 AM   #1311
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Gstaad wouldn't work. Playing at altitude of 1000m before Wimbledon, these bitches already complain about Madrid which is only 550m before RG. The weather will be very dodgy and are they going to play on cow paddocks.

Prague, well there is a thing called sponsors and very humid at that time of the year.
Would be nice to see Belgium and Czech Republic get ATP events. They're bigger and richer than the likes of Croatia and Romania. It shouldn't be a financial obstacle.
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Would be nice to see Belgium and Czech Republic get ATP events. They're a lot bigger and richer than the likes of Croatia and Romania.
That's a stupid reason of the highest order. Umag is a very popular stop on the tour that event is going nowhere.

By that reason Norway, Luxembourg and Finland should have more events then.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:59 AM   #1313
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That's a stupid reason of the highest order. Umag is a very popular stop on the tour that event is going nowhere.

By that reason Norway, Luxembourg and Finland should have more events then.
Wrong. Norway(4.6million) and Finland (5.2million) combined are smaller than either Belgium (11million) or Czech Republic (10million). Not to mention they've produced fewer top 100 players combined than each of the latter two. Mentioning Luxembourg is stupidity of the highest order.

Tradition is not enough to save tournaments. The world moves on and calendars have to evolve.
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Wrong. Luxembourg is even tinier than Croatia. Norway(4.6million) and Finland (5.2million) combined are smaller than either Belgium (11million) or Czech Republic (10million). Not to mention they've produced fewer top 100 players combined than each of the latter two.

Tradition is not enough to save tournaments. The world moves on and calendars have to evolve.
No, you used richer as a reason Croatia and Romania shouldn't have events. Those 250s well they get enough crowd numbers, sponsors and pay their licence fees hence they are still there.

Same as Canada, the venues are up to TMS standard, they get the people to the venue along with the other revenue, unlike Shanghai which has no crowds.
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No, you used richer as a reason Croatia and Romania shouldn't have events.
"Bigger and richer". Please read my posts before replying.

If it was about filling stadiums, Doha and Casablanca would be long gone.
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I'd take out Madrid, particurlaly after the Blue Clay.
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Mughai is a joke, the true mourtary masters. No fans, No Fun, No Fucking decent surface!!!
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I appear to be in the massive minority who actually really enjoy Shanghai. Nice variety of results, players making runs, decently fast (last year)/ok looking surface.
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Post How to improve the ATP Masters Series

- Have 8 Masters events split over 2 years (4 a year)
- Each Masters event:
Is a 128 player draw
Best of 5 sets every round (for men only) (5th set tie break)
Lasts 2 weeks
Is men's and women's singles aswell as men's and women's doubles & Mixed
Has the same ranking points as the grand slams
Each Masters venue is fixed and cannot be moved
No End of year masters event
Top 30 players only include ranking points from the 4 slams and 4 masters events that year, Olympic Games and Davis Cup
Top 30 players only required to play slams and masters - dont have to enter any 250 point masters or 500 point masters events, unless they want to

2012 CALENDAR
16.01.2012 - 29.01.2012 - Australian Open
5 weeks off (Davis cup 1st & Q/Final)
05.03.2012 - 18.03.2012 - Indian Wells Masters - Hard
4 weeks off (Davis cup S/Final)
16.04.2012 - 29.04.2012 - Madrid Masters - Clay
4 weeks off
27.05.2012 - 10.06.2012 - French Open
3 weeks off
02.07.2012 - 15.07.2012 - Wimbledon (moved back a week as planned)
2 weeks off
28.07.2012 - 05.08.2012 - Olympic Games
3 weeks off (Davis cup Q/Final)
27.08.2012 - 09.09.2012 - US Open
3 weeks off
01.10.2012 - 14.10.2012 - Sao Paulo (Brazil) Masters - Clay
3 weeks off
05.11.2012 - 18.11.2012 - Shanghai Masters - Hard
8 weeks until start of Australian Open

2013 CALENDAR
14.01.2013 - 27.01.2013 - Australian Open
5 weeks off (Davis cup 1st round)
04.03.2013 - 17.03.2013 - Miami Masters- Hard
4 weeks off (Davis cup Q/Final)
15.04.2013 - 28.04.2013 - Rome or Hamburg Masters? - Clay
4 weeks off
26.05.2013 - 09.06.2013 - French Open
3 weeks off
01.06.2013 - 14.07.2013 - Wimbledon (moved back a week as planned)
6 weeks off (Davis Cup S/Final & Final)
26.08.2013 - 08.09.2013 - US Open
3 weeks off
30.10.2013 - 13.10.2013 - Johannesburg Masters - Grass
3 weeks off
04.11.2013 - 17.11.2013 - Dubai Masters - Hard
8 weeks until start of Australian Open


Any thoughts please??
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Not practical financially I believe.
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