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View Poll Results: Which of these compulsory 1000 level events would you drop

05.03.2012 - Hard - BNP Paribas Open, Indian Wells, USA 10 7.09%
23.03.2011 - Hard - Sony Ericsson Open, Miami, USA 16 11.35%
01.05.2011 - Clay - Mutua Madrid Open, Madrid, Spain 14 9.93%
08.05.2011 - Clay - Internazionali BNL d'Italia, Rome, Italy 10 7.09%
08.08.2011 - Hard - Rogers Cup, Montreal, Canada 6 4.26%
14.08.2011 - Hard - Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati, USA 20 14.18%
09.10.2011 - Hard - Shanghai Rolex Masters, Shanghai, China 48 34.04%
07.11.2011 - Hard - BNP Paribas Masters - Paris, France 17 12.06%
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:23 PM   #1291
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Default Re: Shouldn't IW and Miami be replaced with more grass tournaments?

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You'd have to take climate change into consideration...
Indeed, paranoia should always play a role in feasibility studies.


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Well fast clay can be good sometimes.

Last year RG was faster than IW and Miami.
Got any proof of that?
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They ought to make Indian Wells and Miami green clay, and have them 1 week long w/ 64 draws. This gives us a 4 weeks grass season run up to Wimbledon.

It would be:

3/5/12- Indian Wells
3/12/12- Miami
3/19/12- Davis Cup
3/26/12- Casablanca/Houston
4/2/12- Monte Carlo
4/9/12- Bucharest/Barcelona
4/16/12- Munich/Belgrade/Estoril
4/23/12- Madrid
4/30/12- Rome
5/7/12- Dusseldorf/Nice
5/14/12- Roland Garros
5/28/12- Newport/Halle
6/4/12- Queens 1000
6/11/12- Rosmalen/Eastbourne
6/18/12- Wimbledon
7/2/12- Stuttgart/Bastad/Umag
7/9/12- Hamburg/Atlanta/Gstaad
7/16/12- Kitzbuhel/LA
7/23/12- Washington
7/30/12- Olympics
8/6/12- Toronto
8/13/12- Cincy
8/20/12- Winston Salem
8/27/12- USO
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:29 PM   #1293
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That's only 3 weeks.
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3 weeks then.

Unless I upgrade the Nottingham Challenger into a 250.
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I don't expect tennis to rid itself of clay tournaments, but it is obviously a primitive surface really only fitting of children in 3rd world countries that cannot afford lawnmowers for grass or cement for hardcourts. A lot of it can be done away with or at least reduced in importance due to the boring and improper play that it encourages.



The only primitive surface is grass which is the only surface where all service-mugs like the overrated pretty boy in your avatar can have some success. It's outdated, too expensive, too unrobust.

Replacing IW and Miami with grass court tourneys...yeah right, great idea that is
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Climate change plus the diminishing ground water basin of the area.
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Dubai, Queens, and Buenos Aires should have a Tennis Masters Series.

Upgrade the Copa Claro into a TMS, Queens into TMS and Dubai into a TMS.
Buenos Aires will take Madrid's place. Queens will take Miami's place. Cincinatti will be replaced by Dubai. Turn Madrid, Miami and Cincinatti into 500 events. Halle should be a 500 event as well. Iceland should have a 250 event, call it the Arctic Open. It will be indoor carpet. Players like Freddie Nielsen, Soderking, Nieminen get wildcards for this event. Grass court season lasts a month longer. Add grass court events 250 level in Boston, Dublin, Glasgow, Liverpool and Cologne.

This way, we can have a Grass TMS, a South American Tennis Masters and a Middle Eastern TMS.

Personally, I think it's kinda hard for some of the top players to have to play back to back Tennis Masters series or three times in a row like the Clay Swing.

I say give the top players a rest and don't have back to back TMS series.

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grass should defo have a masters 500 (Queens) and 1000 (Halle), or vice versa. Perhaps extend the season a month after Wimbledon also as it needs more court time imo.
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Neither Queens or Halle have facilities required for a Masters level event. Plus, it would make summer schedule quite nightmarish.
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Neither Queens or Halle have facilities required for a Masters level event. Plus, it would make summer schedule quite nightmarish.
Same with Buenos Aires unless they move the event to Parca Roca.
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3 weeks between RG and Wimbledon. Is it SO much to ask?
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Now that we have the three weeks ( ) here's my suggestion:

ROLAND GARROS
ROLAND GARROS

Halle 250 / Queens 250
Hamburg 1000
's-hertogenbosch 250 / Eastbourne 250
WIMBLEDON
WIMBLEDON
Newport 250
/ Gstaad 250 / Bastad 250
Los Angeles 250 / Stuttgart 250 / Umag 250
Toronto 500 / Atlanta 250
Montreal 500 / Washington 250
Cincinnati 1000
New Haven 250
US OPEN
US OPEN



I would also have a Challenger on grass same week as Hamburg.
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God please increase the money or do smthing good about ITF events please i'm trying to somehow get to that 1 f*cking POINT
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Yes, I agree with the above.
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Actually this would be ideal 2015:


Brisbane 250 / Doha 250
Sydney 250 / Auckland 250
AUSTRALIAN OPEN
AUSTRALIAN OPEN

Zagreb 250 / Vina del Mar 250 / Johannesburg 250
DAVIS CUP I
Rotterdam 500 / Buenos Aires 250 / Chennai 250
Brussels 250 / Sao Paulo 500 / Mumbai 250
Dubai 500 / Acapulco 500 / Delray Beach 250
Indian Wells 1000
Indian Wells 1000
Miami 1000
Miami 1000

DAVIS CUP II
Casablanca 250 / Houston 250
Monte-Carlo 1000
Barcelona 500 / Bucharest 250
Estoril 250 / Munich 250 / Belgrade 250
Madrid 1000
Rome 1000
Nice 250 / WTC
ROLAND GARROS
ROLAND GARROS

Stuttgart 250 / Gstaad 250 / Newport 250
Halle 500 / Queens 500
Hamburg 1000
's-hertogenbosch 250 / Eastbourne 250
WIMBLEDON
WIMBLEDON

Los Angeles 250 / Bastad 250 / Umag 250
Atlanta 250 / Toronto 250 / Prague 250
Washington 250 / Montreal 500
Cincinnati 1000
Winston-Salem 250
US OPEN
US OPEN

DAVIS CUP III
Kuala Lumpur 250 / St Petersburg 250
Bangkok 250 / Seoul 250
Beijing 500 / Tokyo 500
Shanghai 1000
Vienna 250 / Stockholm 250 / Moscow 250
Basel 500 / Valencia 500
Paris 1000

WTF London 1500


DAVIS CUP FINAL
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