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05.03.2012 - Hard - BNP Paribas Open, Indian Wells, USA 10 7.09%
23.03.2011 - Hard - Sony Ericsson Open, Miami, USA 16 11.35%
01.05.2011 - Clay - Mutua Madrid Open, Madrid, Spain 14 9.93%
08.05.2011 - Clay - Internazionali BNL d'Italia, Rome, Italy 10 7.09%
08.08.2011 - Hard - Rogers Cup, Montreal, Canada 6 4.26%
14.08.2011 - Hard - Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati, USA 20 14.18%
09.10.2011 - Hard - Shanghai Rolex Masters, Shanghai, China 48 34.04%
07.11.2011 - Hard - BNP Paribas Masters - Paris, France 17 12.06%
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:08 AM   #736
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The calendar is fine as it is, but the fact that the masters series are mandatory events and that there is 9 of them is not a good thing.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:21 AM   #737
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Monte Carlo isn't mandatory and half the top players make excuses not to play Paris
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:32 AM   #738
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17 Jan 2011 - 23 Jan 2011 = Shanghai Masters (Hard)
31 Jan 2011 - 06 Feb 2011 = Sydney Masters (Hard)
14 Feb 2011 - 27 Feb 2011 = Australian Open
two weeks off

14 March 2011 - 16 March 2011 = Davis Cup 1st round
25 March 2011 - 27 March 2011 = Davis Cup Quarter Final
two weeks off

11 April 2011 - 17 April 2011 = Rome Masters (Clay)
25 April 2011 - 01 May 2011 = Monte Carlo Masters (Clay)
09 May 2011 - 22 May 2011 = Roland Garros
two weeks off

06 June 2011 - 12 June 2011 = Halle Masters (Grass)
20 June 2011 - 26 June 2011 = Queens Masters (Grass)
04 July 2011 - 17 July 2011 = Wimbledon
Two weeks off

01 Aug 2011 - 07 Aug 2011 = Indian Wells Masters (Hard)
15 Aug 2011 - 21 Aug 2011 = Miami Masters (Hard)
29 Aug 2011 - 11 Sept 2011 = US Open
Two weeks off

26 Sept 2011 - 02 Oct 2011 = Paris Masters
10 Oct 2011 - 16 Oct 2011 = Tour Finals at the 02 in London or Madison Square Gardan New York
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28 Oct 2011 - 30 Oct 2011 = Davis Cup S/Final
04 Nov 2011 - 06 Nov 2011 = Davis Cup Final


At the moment there are too many tournaments in the calandar, the top players are being made to play too much and are not given a long enough rest between events and at the end of the season. The Australian open is too early in the year and doesnt allow the players enough lead up going in to it. The grass court season isnt long enough and the davis cup is in no-man's land in the calandar.

In my schedule the calandar is designed to focus on the 4 Grand Slams, the Davis Cup, and the Tour Finals. There's two run-up tournaments/Masters before each Grand Slam event. Obviously the schedule would have to be slightly changed every 4 years to fit in the Olympics.

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This is the tour the ITF wanted in the mid-90s if they had got there way =
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-07-..._1_tennis-tour
Funny guy since the ATP have run the mens game since 1990, they (ITF) can't do anything about the tournaments that aren't Slams or Davis Cup.

Good trolling attempt.
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Funny guy since the ATP have run the mens game since 1990, they can't do anything about the tournaments that aren't Slams or Davis Cup.

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Aye?? You dont make any sense. If you read the article you will see the ITF wanted to set up there own breakaway tour against the atp. Why am I a funny guy??
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  • the things i would change to have a more balanced tennis season:
  • get rid of one or 2 US Masters. Cincinnati and maybe Miami.
  • shorten Indian Wells by one week
  • add one week of grass, turn Halle & Queens into ATP500.
  • turn into Monte Carlo into ATP500 (really).
  • get rid of Paris MS, there are too many tournaments in France. Paris is useless now, make it ATP500.
  • drop some uselless tournies like Umag, Metz, St Petersburg.
  • Add one MS into Latin Americana, Acapulco or Argentina.
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Considering the IS events are the ones where the top players work their way through to get to the top status. Can't have just Slams and TMS events, the structure of the tournament levels are fine, just not the prizemoney at lower level or the amount of tournaments.
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  • the things i would change to have a more balanced tennis season:
  • get rid of one or 2 US Masters. Cincinnati and maybe Miami.
  • shorten Indian Wells by one week
  • add one week of grass, turn Halle & Queens into ATP500.
  • turn into Monte Carlo into ATP500 (really).
  • get rid of Paris MS, there are too many tournaments in France. Paris is useless now, make it ATP500.
  • drop some uselless tournies like Umag, Metz, St Petersburg.
  • Add one MS into Latin Americana, Acapulco or Argentina.
Where do you get the extra week for grass? Don't thing RG or Wimbledon will ever move their spots in the calendar.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:57 PM   #744
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The calendar is fine as it is, but the fact that the masters series are mandatory events and that there is 9 of them is not a good thing.
No they need to get rid of clay after Wimbledon. This US Open Series is actually a decent concept as a lead up to USO and works well for TV (in fact they should do something similar before RG), but not with tournaments being played in Sweden, Germany, Croatia, Austria and Switzerland on clay. Of course those tournaments all have 'history', but then so do some of the tournaments in North America that we're routinely told 'round here need to go - like Cincy.
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No they need to get rid of clay after Wimbledon. This US Open Series is actually a decent concept as a lead up to USO and works well for TV (in fact they should do something similar before RG), but not with tournaments being played in Sweden, Germany, Croatia, Austria and Switzerland on clay. Of course those tournaments all have 'history', but then so do some of the tournaments in North America that we're routinely told 'round here need to go - like Cincy.
No, the summer clay season isn't a problem. If people want to bitch about the Americans being away from North America during the spring clay season and grass time which is a couple of months, then the same principle should apply to the US Open series.

They don't need the marketing tool before RG.
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:03 PM   #746
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  • the things i would change to have a more balanced tennis season:
  • get rid of one or 2 US Masters. Cincinnati and maybe Miami.
  • shorten Indian Wells by one week
  • add one week of grass, turn Halle & Queens into ATP500.
  • turn into Monte Carlo into ATP500 (really).
  • get rid of Paris MS, there are too many tournaments in France. Paris is useless now, make it ATP500.
  • drop some uselless tournies like Umag, Metz, St Petersburg.
  • Add one MS into Latin Americana, Acapulco or Argentina.
it's simple, just get rid of the davis cup or make it a one week event at the end season for mediocre players . Don't force top players to play it and above all don't make it 5 sets. Davis cup must be get rid of in order to make masters more time between. This will allow Rome/Madrid and Canada/Cincinatti to have time off in between and maybe even allow them to start on sunday when most sports are played. Schedule can't be fixed unles DC is discarded for good.

Move Paris masters to Germany which doesn't have any top level tournament now. Keep all the masters of course as they are the most competitive and allow top players to meet and bring their rivalries.
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it's simple, just get rid of the davis cup or make it a one week event at the end season for mediocre players.
Does ATP have authority to make such a decision?

I'd rather get rid of two American Masters than of Davis Cup.
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No, the summer clay season isn't a problem. If people want to bitch about the Americans being away from North America during the spring clay season and grass time which is a couple of months, then the same principle should apply to the US Open series.

They don't need the marketing tool before RG.
Figured you'd say that. What tournaments, besides, say, Houston do the Americans play in NA during the spring clay season? I'd maybe grant your point if they were playing on hard courts in NA while the rest of the tour was in Europe playing on clay.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the US Open Series.
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Does ATP have authority to make such a decision?

I'd rather get rid of two American Masters than of Davis Cup.
Masters are required to have top players meet each other and build rivalries, not like yesteryears when they would avoid each other. Davis cup seems completelly outdated and the way they put it with 5 sets is non sense. I mean why would a top player play a nobody ranked #285 in a best of 5?
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I mean why would a top player play a nobody ranked #285 in a best of 5?
because you have a heart would like to play for your country...? yeah... i know... what a crazy thought...
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