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View Poll Results: Which of these compulsory 1000 level events would you drop

05.03.2012 - Hard - BNP Paribas Open, Indian Wells, USA 10 7.09%
23.03.2011 - Hard - Sony Ericsson Open, Miami, USA 16 11.35%
01.05.2011 - Clay - Mutua Madrid Open, Madrid, Spain 14 9.93%
08.05.2011 - Clay - Internazionali BNL d'Italia, Rome, Italy 10 7.09%
08.08.2011 - Hard - Rogers Cup, Montreal, Canada 6 4.26%
14.08.2011 - Hard - Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati, USA 20 14.18%
09.10.2011 - Hard - Shanghai Rolex Masters, Shanghai, China 48 34.04%
07.11.2011 - Hard - BNP Paribas Masters - Paris, France 17 12.06%
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:32 PM   #16
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We need more grass tournaments.
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:38 PM   #17
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Yes we do. Something also needs to be done about the likes of Gaston Gaudio faking injury and then magically recovering in time for Gstaad, Bastad etc.
Although Scud turned down a French Open wildcard so he's just as bad.
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And to answer the question posed by the creator of the thread: yes. Get rid of ALL the clay events and instead build a court in which every square foot is comprised of a different surface. You could try experimenting with everything from granite to marble, linoleum, a bear rug, er, plastecene, fiberglass, banana skins, leather and perhaps a couple of dildos used as netposts to go with the female reproductive organ that you mentioned.
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i agree. it's becoming the atp clay court tour. there are sooo many clay court tournaments all year round. not like the wta
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Maybe there should be more grass court tournaments between the French Open and Wimbledon for better preperation so the players who prefer clay can get used to the green stuff more.
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need more clay. It's a more creative game.
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The market will decide the success of all the smaller ATP events including the Master Series Events. If the clay events can keep their heads above water then they will stay.
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More myths as usual.

Considering that the vast majority of the major events are on faster surfaces.
- 3 out of 9 TMS events on clay
- 4 out of the 5 majors on surfaces other than clay.
- The majority of ISG events are on surfaces other than clay.

Sorry for pointing out relevant information on this subject and it's just as easy to prosper in the top 10 without doing well on clay, but that has escaped some people I suppose.
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I think there should be a limit to how many tournaments per surface a player is entitled to enter in a year. Its getting absurd to see players like Puerta and Karlovic just do nothing except play on their specific surface. Puerta is the worst case scenario, get rid of 1 clay and 1 hardcourt tournament and replace it with grass to balance things out a little. This would allow for 1 month of preparation between RG and Wimby and no excuses for players like Gaudio for pulling out
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I think there should be a limit to how many tournaments per surface a player is entitled to enter in a year. Its getting absurd to see players like Puerta and Karlovic just do nothing except play on their specific surface. Puerta is the worst case scenario, get rid of 1 clay and 1 hardcourt tournament and replace it with grass to balance things out a little. This would allow for 1 month of preparation between RG and Wimby and no excuses for players like Gaudio for pulling out
Karlovic did 6 tournies on clay in 2005, it's not that bad. Roddick: 4 !!
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I think there should be a limit to how many tournaments per surface a player is entitled to enter in a year. Its getting absurd to see players like Puerta and Karlovic just do nothing except play on their specific surface. Puerta is the worst case scenario, get rid of 1 clay and 1 hardcourt tournament and replace it with grass to balance things out a little. This would allow for 1 month of preparation between RG and Wimby and no excuses for players like Gaudio for pulling out
Why are you so irritated with the fact of Gaudio have not played in Wimbledon?
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First off i apologize i realise i went over the top a little, with my reply to Chloe, but my reaction was one of anger as i am asking opinions and i get a reply like that i mean the majority of people agree with me so i think i make a valid point, i probably should of made my point a bit clearer and a couple of people have hit it on the nail.

I feel players like Gaudio devalue the game of tennis he pulls out of the biggest event in tennis but is playing the week after it use to happen with correctja costa all the usual suspects, thats what gets me these guys no they can make there $$ and gain ranking points on there little clay court events, i feel there are too many players devaluing the game because they can, these guys should learn and adapt there games to surfaces there not use to if not should be fined and even banned it's not good for the game.

Some of you guys say Federer Hewitt gain all there points on grass these guys play the master series and rolland garrros and give it there all year in year out
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More myths as usual.

Considering that the vast majority of the major events are on faster surfaces.
- 3 out of 9 TMS events on clay
- 4 out of the 5 majors on surfaces other than clay.
- The majority of ISG events are on surfaces other than clay.

Sorry for pointing out relevant information on this subject and it's just as easy to prosper in the top 10 without doing well on clay, but that has escaped some people I suppose.
Once again, I agree with George.

OK...you can of course correct me if I'm getting the wrong impression but I think that some of you let your rather negative and condescending opinion on the clay surface stand in the way of the facts.

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Old 07-13-2005, 10:53 AM   #29
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Well that sort of answers my question the majority of the big boys play the big events which are not clay tournaments but the tournaments underneath your master series and grand slams they are clay dominated that is my point exactly, i am not talking about getting inot the top ten i am talking about guys who play all their tennis on clay because they can why is there clay tornys this week ???? Roland Garros is over Wimbledon has just finished and the Us open is coming up, so i don't understand why is there clay events none of the your top players i.e roddick federer hewitt safin will be playing these events they would if it was lead up to french open but there is no point what so ever that is my point.
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Wimbledon is over and yet there still are grass tournaments (granted, there aren't enough grass tournaments perhaps)
Roland Garros is over and yet there are still clay tournaments.
So?

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Well that sort of answers my question the majority of the big boys play the big events which are not clay tournaments but the tournaments underneath your master series and grand slams they are clay dominated that is my point exactly, i am not talking about getting inot the top ten i am talking about guys who play all their tennis on clay because they can why is there clay tornys this week ????

Forgive me...English isn't my first or second language but you have a confusing way of writing (for me, anyway).
I'd love to reply to this but I'm not sure of what you are saying.

You should only play a small tournament leading up to a bigger tournament?
small grass tournaments leading up to a big grass tournament, small clay tournaments leading up to a big clay tournament?
Is that it?

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