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View Poll Results: Which of these compulsory 1000 level events would you drop

05.03.2012 - Hard - BNP Paribas Open, Indian Wells, USA 10 7.09%
23.03.2011 - Hard - Sony Ericsson Open, Miami, USA 16 11.35%
01.05.2011 - Clay - Mutua Madrid Open, Madrid, Spain 14 9.93%
08.05.2011 - Clay - Internazionali BNL d'Italia, Rome, Italy 10 7.09%
08.08.2011 - Hard - Rogers Cup, Montreal, Canada 6 4.26%
14.08.2011 - Hard - Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati, USA 20 14.18%
09.10.2011 - Hard - Shanghai Rolex Masters, Shanghai, China 48 34.04%
07.11.2011 - Hard - BNP Paribas Masters - Paris, France 17 12.06%
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:10 PM   #226
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Besides, I think some of them are just being cautious ahead of Shanghai.
I think so too. Why keep playing when nothing will change before Shanghai?

We see this every year. When the number one is on the line, the european indoor season heats up, but when it's a lock long before the indoor season, the tournaments aren't as well attended. Remember the year Marat, Sampras, Agassi and Kuerten were all in the running for the number one spot? No one complained about the schedule that year.
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The problem is not the schedule. The problem is the players commiting to too many tournaments. If they were smarter, they wouldn't get injured. Nobody is forcing Federer and Nadal to play 80+ matches per year.
You do realise Federer has only played 14 tournaments (plus one DC tie) to reach that figure of 80 matches? His injury is not related to over-playing, either.

Nadal has played 21 tournaments. I'm pretty sure he'll cut that down next year.
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Remember the year Marat, Sampras, Agassi and Kuerten were all in the running for the number one spot? No one complained about the schedule that year.
Hopefully next year both Fed and Rafa will be competing for the no.1 spot at the end of the year. Maybe they can be joined by a fully-fit Marat?
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:26 PM   #229
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You do realise Federer has only played 14 tournaments (plus one DC tie) to reach that figure of 80 matches? His injury is not related to over-playing, either.

Nadal has played 21 tournaments. I'm pretty sure he'll cut that down next year.
Maybe if Roger is less successful next year he won't have the same physical problems.

JCF had a similar problem in 2003 when his success and his schedule eventually caused his downfall.
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:12 PM   #230
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Didn't MTF do this thread already under a different name?

DC every two years is fine.
Standardized balls is a great idea as well.
Should be a maximum number of tournaments a player can play including optional lower tier events a top player may want to use as a tune up after an injury or a vacation from the game. This will give lower ranked players a chance to build up points and keep the top players healthy.
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The problem is not the schedule. The problem is the players commiting to too many tournaments. If they were smarter, they wouldn't get injured. Nobody is forcing Federer and Nadal to play 80+ matches per year.

It's not a coincidence that the lower ranked players, who have played less matches, are not injured. Out of the top 6, 5 are injured. Out of the remaining top 40, 5 are injured.

Besides, I think some of them are just being cautious ahead of Shanghai.
Fed played 14 tournaments so far this year. That's less than most players (except of course the ones with chronic injuries). His recent injury was not due to playing too many matches but rather bad luck. What tournaments exactly should he not have played this year? And has he or Rafa even complained about scheduling or the season being too long?
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:18 AM   #232
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Did Andy commit to LA? I think he never was going to play there this year.

Anyway, players do over commit sometimes because they want to be sure to get enough points and playing time esp. right before a slam event.

I think having the same balls for every tournament is a good idea, but probably won't get a lot of support from tournament directors.

I notice the article didn't support shortening the season.
Yes, Roddick pulled out of LA due to soreness in his right knee. But played Washington DC the next week.

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Old 11-01-2005, 01:52 AM   #233
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An immediate and probably effective way is to limit the number of tournaments that can count towards rankings. What is the number of optionals right now? Isn't it 5? In addition to the slams and TMS, this adds up to a very large number of tournaments in which to maximize points
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I agree the AMS final should be best of 3 instead of 5. Other than the Madrid and Paris, all the other AMSs have 64 draws, i.e. the players reached finals played 5 matches already within a week. And the finals on Sunday would be their 6th match in 7 days. That's too much IMO if the players have to play best of 5.
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This has been done many times already this type of thread.

Ivan Ljubicic made a very simple and true point. "It's not like players weren't getting injured before. Our season is virtually 12 months and players are getting injured, I had back problems in the year. When the number 21 was getting injured, nobody cared, now Federer gets injured, people start caring".

Yes, as for the Davis Cup, it seems that the short sighted view is apparent, as Davis Cup generates a large amount of revenue for the tennis Federations, especially the smaller ones, it's Ok for the larger nations to say DC is a strain, but who is going to reimburse the other nations when they don't get the funds from the DC annual ties are they going to go cap in hand to ITF and beg for loans. Just give the finalists a bye into the quarter finals and have 14 teams in the World Group.
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This has been done many times already this type of thread.

Ivan Ljubicic made a very simple and true point. "It's not like players weren't getting injured before. Our season is virtually 12 months and players are getting injured, I had back problems in the year. When the number 21 was getting injured, nobody cared, now Federer gets injured, people start caring".
Yeah, Fed gets injured and people like Roddick start caring.
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Yeah, Fed gets injured and people like Roddick start caring.
Do you know the context that statement was made in? Surprise me.
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Maybe if Roger is less successful next year he won't have the same physical problems.
I don't see what that has to do with anything. Roger's injury was an accident, could have happened any time.

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JCF had a similar problem in 2003 when his success and his schedule eventually caused his downfall.
Ferrero's had a similar problem to Federer? I don't think it could be any *less* similar. Ferrero was burnt out towards the end of the 2003, and then he struggled and got chicken pox. Fed was not at all burnt out, he's paced himself very well this year and was intending to play everything (except probably Bercy imo) to complete the season - just had an unfortunate incident whilst practising.
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Fed was not at all burnt out, he's paced himself very well this year and was intending to play everything (except probably Bercy imo) to complete the season - just had an unfortunate incident whilst practising.
Fed said after USO he was planning to play his full schedule because he took his rest after Wimbledon. As you say it was bad luck in practice not burn out that caused this injury.

Incidentally, this is what Roger said last year in a Tennis Week interview.

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why AMS Finals only for 3 sets?
why to kill the spectacle???, the most exciting matches this year have been in AMS Finals with marathon matches in Miami, Madrid and Rome !
for playing 2 hours more 3 days in a year you won't be more tired at the ned of the season !!!!
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