[forehandluva]

let me start off by saying i am a federer fan, and this is hypothetical but if federer was the same age as the other members of the big 4 and they played in todays conditions he probably wouldnt have won double figure slams. yes if conditions were quicker he would dominate the other big 4 members. i reckon he would have mabye 2 or 3 wimbledons, 1 australian open and 2 us opens and thats it. i say this as prime for prime at wimbledon federer and rafa i would probably have nadal as the slight favourite, and murray would have a shot as well. then at australia federer has no chance against nadal or djokovic on the slow court, i would also slightly favour murray as well. then at the us open he would probably split meetings with djokovic and murray and loose more often than not to nadal. so i dont agree that he had a weak era but he didnt have any real rivals except nadal on clay. this isnt a knee-jerk reaction its me coming to my senses. and can see the point from fed haters. however nadal has benefitted from lack of competition on clay as djokovic was only a threat from 2011 onwards and fucked about in 2012.

[rocketassist]

No, Djokovic and Murray have.

[Looner]

Yeah, it's not as if a 17-year-old Nadal was #2 in the world. I have trouble believing someone can be a Fed fan and write this post.

[alter ego]

Zero obviously.

[Topspindoctor]

Noserer wouldn't win any slams if he played in the era of prime Nadal. He'd have a Davydenko career.

[Kyle_Johansen]

What an idiotic thread, just leave.

[Sophocles]

Cretinous thread. If you put several all-times greats peaking into the era of any all-time great, the all-time great in question would be less successful. How many slams would Sampras have won if peak Borg, Mac, Nadal & Federer were all around? Durr, a lot fewer.

[hipolymer]

Originally Posted by Sophocles

Cretinous thread. If you put several all-times greats peaking into the era of any all-time great, the all-time great in question would be less successful. How many slams would Sampras have won if peak Borg, Mac, Nadal & Federer were all around? Durr, a lot fewer.

Federer only had to compete with Nadal. Lendl had to compete with Borg, McEnroe, Wilander, Becker, Edberg, Sampras, etc.

[forehandluva]

im not saying federer is not the better player as he obviously is however he is so stubborn, he said in an interview that in training he works on his strengths rather than his backhand as he says his opponents make it better during matches. then why does your backhand breakdown against rafa then federer. they should just ban federer nadal matches on all surfaces but grass where their matchup is reletively even. as federer dominates indoor meetings and nadal everywhere that is slow

[juan27]

Originally Posted by Topspindoctor

Noserer wouldn't win any slams if he played in the era of prime Nadal. He'd have a Davydenko career.

where was prime nadal`s era????

he was a transiotional nº1 beetwen federer`s era and djoko`s era

he beneficited outside clay of a past peak federer and pre peak nole.

federer with the same age of these 3 and with the courts of his time would be win the same.

djoko and murray beneficited more of federer`s age , and nadal a bit but more beneficiated for the slow courts

[FedFan]

Why not ask the question, if Nadal and Co would have the same number of slams, if the conditions have not been slowed down during the last years? What if the racket technology had no improved?

[Kyle_Johansen]

Originally Posted by forehandluva

im not saying federer is not the better player as he obviously is however he is so stubborn, he said in an interview that in training he works on his strengths rather than his backhand as he says his opponents make it better during matches. then why does your backhand breakdown against rafa then federer. they should just ban federer nadal matches on all surfaces but grass where their matchup is reletively even. as federer dominates indoor meetings and nadal everywhere that is slow

Because against Rafa he's hitting the BH at the shoulder and against everyone else he is hitting it in the strike zone.

[GSMnadal]

Definitely. If he had to face prime beef Rafa and Nole, his slams would be in single digits for sure

[Kyle_Johansen]

Djokovic and Murray are lucky Federer isn't 22-26 now. He would always struggle with Nadal except on grass and faster surfaces, but he would do very well vs Murray and Nole in his much younger days.

[juan27]

Originally Posted by GSMnadal

Definitely. If he had to face prime beef Rafa and Nole, his slams would be in single digits for sure

nadal too , he only would win on clay if he faces peak federer and djokovic.

nadla never was a nº1 like djoko or fed , he take the advantage of the empy period beetwen past peak roger and pre peak nole