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Old 12-15-2012, 05:15 AM   #1
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Default Do you agree with this list of "top" 100 novels?

Do you agree with Modern Library's list of top hundred novels of the 20th century? the poll was conducted in 1998 but I found some very interesting books omitted from the list. For instance, the Lord of the Rings never made it into the top 100 of the critical list, the work being cited as not literary enough. On the other hand, Finnegan's wake, a work barely anyone remotely understood was included on the list.

Here is the permalink: http://www.modernlibrary.com/top-100/100-best-novels/

So, what's MTF's take on this?


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MODERN LIBRARY'S TOP TEN:

1. ULYSSES by James Joyce
2. THE GREAT GATSBY by F. Scott Fitzgerald
3. A PORTRAIT OF THE ARTIST AS A YOUNG MAN by James Joyce
4. LOLITA by Vladimir Nabokov
5. BRAVE NEW WORLD by Aldous Huxley
6. THE SOUND AND THE FURY by William Faulkner
7. CATCH-22 by Joseph Heller
8. DARKNESS AT NOON by Arthur Koestler
9. SONS AND LOVERS by D.H. Lawrence
10. THE GRAPES OF WRATH by John Steinbeck

READER'S TOP TEN:

1. ATLAS SHRUGGED by Ayn Rand
2. THE FOUNTAINHEAD by Ayn Rand
3. BATTLEFIELD EARTH by L. Ron Hubbard
4. THE LORD OF THE RINGS by J.R.R. Tolkien
5. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD by Harper Lee
6. 1984 by George Orwell
7. ANTHEM by Ayn Rand
8. WE THE LIVING by Ayn Rand
9. MISSION EARTH by L. Ron Hubbard
10.FEAR by L. Ron Hubbard
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:51 AM   #2
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Default Re: Do you agree with this list of "top" 100 novels?

Atlas Shrugged ahead of 1984 *killsself
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:21 PM   #3
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Default Re: Do you agree with this list of "top" 100 novels?

Bit of a write-in campaign by the readers. Either that or Tom Cruise was very busy.

Anyway, no list without "A Confederacy of Dunces" deserves to be taken seriously.

OK A list with Joyce in first and third is not all bad.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:18 PM   #4
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Default Re: Do you agree with this list of "top" 100 novels?

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Bit of a write-in campaign by the readers. Either that or Tom Cruise was very busy.

Anyway, no list without "A Confederacy of Dunces" deserves to be taken seriously.

OK A list with Joyce in first and third is not all bad.
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Yes, too much of Ron Hubbard on the Reader's list.

Hey, I am reading 'A Confederacy of Dunces' and I laughing from my belly...this book so far is a cracking nut job. From the reviews, I infer it must be the only screwball comedy to be considered literature.

I understand your Irish bias with Joyce.
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Default Re: Do you agree with this list of "top" 100 novels?

That's top US/English novels, not top novels Lord of the rings is more suitable for "fan's favorite" type of things, so no surprise it was omitted here.
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Default Re: Do you agree with this list of "top" 100 novels?

I thoroughly ignored the Readers' list after reading the first 10. Not worth commenting. About the other one, it seems (as most lists tend to be) biased towards older stuff. There is close to nothing post-modern or post-post-modern. I mean, no Pynchon, DeLillo, McCarthy, DFW's "Infinite Jest"? It's more like a "best 100 novels before the 70s" list.
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Default Re: Do you agree with this list of "top" 100 novels?

First thing that comes to mind is that 1984 should be higher, definitely higher than, say, Brave New World for instance.
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Default Re: Do you agree with this list of "top" 100 novels?

I do appreciate both Hitchhiker's Guide and Watership Down being on the list

I love both but prefer Brave New World to 1984
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Bit of a write-in campaign by the readers. Either that or Tom Cruise was very busy.

Anyway, no list without "A Confederacy of Dunces" deserves to be taken seriously.

OK A list with Joyce in first and third is not all bad.
Have you read Lolita? Knowing your fascination for puns and double entendres I'd be surprised if you didn't like it.
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I do appreciate both Hitchhiker's Guide and Watership Down being on the list

I love both but prefer Brave New World to 1984
Should have been 42nd, though, not 51st.
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I'd like to have an opinion about this, but I have to admit I haven't read all the candidates. I am impressed by those who have.
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Should have been 42nd, though, not 51st.
True It's not my favorite in the series though (Mostly Harmless is, then So Long and Thanks for All the Fish) What's your opinion on that?

Can't believe that wasn't in Editor's list.
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True It's not my favorite in the series though (Mostly Harmless is, then So Long and Thanks for All the Fish) What's your opinion of that?
Well, to be honest I read all of them at once. "Hitch-Hikers Guide To The Galaxy - A Trilogy In Four Parts". Never focused on which book came in which order, read through the whole thing rather quickly. Same story when I read it again.
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Wait, if it was that you've never read Mostly Harmless
You must do so!
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Wait, if it was that you've never read Mostly Harmless
You must do so!
Sorry, bad explanation on my part. Mostly Harmless was part of the package, even though a separate book, "The fifth book in the increasingly inaccurately named trilogy HHGTTG". I got all five at once. The last one was not my favourite, though. Hard to separate between the first four. They were all fantastic.

Have you read Adams' other works? The Dirk Gently novels were also splendid, IMO.
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