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Old 07-25-2011, 08:56 AM   #61
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i am not very into music, i wonder whether why Amy, who was so famous, only had 2 albums? it seems that the famous singers in HK at least released 1 album per year, its not the same for Western singers?
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Is it any more messy than dying?
3 times in 4 months i have had to make alternative plans for journey home because some people think the Central line is a swell place to end their lives.

If one is going to kill themselves do it in a manner that doesn't inconvenience the public and traumatize the public. Hell even Hitler had the decency to sort out his own burial plans.

Euthanasia should be allowed for the long term suffering.

Depression is a sickness?

There's a reason why suicides don't go to heaven, you just don't check out when things get tough.
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Depression is a sickness?
Yes, it's a clinical illness.

'Depression is a medical illness that involves the mind and body. Also called major depression, major depressive disorder and clinical depression, it affects how you feel, think and behave. Depression can lead to a variety of emotional and physical problems. You may have trouble doing normal day-to-day activities, and depression may make you feel as if life isn't worth living.

More than just a bout of the blues, depression isn't a weakness, nor is it something that you can simply "snap out" of. Depression is a chronic illness that usually requires long-term treatment, like diabetes or high blood pressure. But don't get discouraged. Most people with depression feel better with medication, psychological counseling or other treatment.
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'Depression is more than just a low mood - it's a serious illness. While we all feel sad, moody or low from time to time, some people experience these feelings intensely, for long periods of time and often without reason. People with depression find it hard to function every day and may be reluctant to participate in activities they once enjoyed.

Depression is one of the most common of all mental health problems. One in five people experience depression at some stage of their lives.'

http://www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx?link_id=89

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3 times in 4 months i have had to make alternative plans for journey home because some people think the Central line is a swell place to end their lives.

If one is going to kill themselves do it in a manner that doesn't inconvenience the public and traumatize the public. Hell even Hitler had the decency to sort out his own burial plans.

Euthanasia should be allowed for the long term suffering.

Depression is a sickness?

There's a reason why suicides don't go to heaven, you just don't check out when things get tough.
Yes. Real depression is a sickness, and those who have not experienced it, can´t even begin to understand what goes through someones mind when he/she is genuinely depressed. Just to be clear, I have never suffered from depression myself, but depression is lot more than "things getting tough". As for going to heaven, how do you know who ( if anyone) goes there and who doesn´t? Come on...
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I think god will show his mercy and won't punish those who really can't support any more by killing themselves, to say that, i don't mean those who killed themselves with minor things like your boss/mum/lovers scolded you or your lover dumped you or you didn't have monie to buy a i-phone ..... just like he will not put homosexuals into hell as he should have known that many of them are born to be liked that. If someone has to be blamed, gold also has to be blamed coz he created them
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Wow, this tread is getting far from its original topic... TGS, do rapists go to heaven?
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3 times in 4 months i have had to make alternative plans for journey home because some people think the Central line is a swell place to end their lives.

If one is going to kill themselves do it in a manner that doesn't inconvenience the public and traumatize the public. Hell even Hitler had the decency to sort out his own burial plans.

Euthanasia should be allowed for the long term suffering.

Depression is a sickness?

There's a reason why suicides don't go to heaven, you just don't check out when things get tough.
A medically recognized illness, yes.
Not even going to try to do anything with the last sentence though.
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Yes. Real depression is a sickness, and those who have not experienced it, can´t even begin to understand what goes through someones mind when he/she is genuinely depressed. Just to be clear, I have never suffered from depression myself, but depression is lot more than "things getting tough". As for going to heaven, how do you know who ( if anyone) goes there and who doesn´t? Come on...
Honestly didn't know that about depression. Thanks for the Info (Manon).

As for the Heaven bit, that's what I was taught at Sunday School. It's the sin of Murder nonetheless.When I was younger a terminally ill aunt of mine threw herself down a well and my teacher told that sadly she wouldn't be going to heaven. Which sucks because she was already near the end anyways.

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Wow, this tread is getting far from its original topic... TGS, do rapists go to heaven?
You sure won't find any up there, but what do i know? how would i know?


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It's a shame more oculdn't be done to help her you know, we knew she had problems but I just wish there was more we could have done to help.
I wonder if the same sentiment is also for all those poor unknowns who die from drug abuse. To be honest, Celebs don't help the situation by doing drugs because they are not advertising how bad it is, instead people see drugs as a cool thing celebs do.
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I agreed with you, i also wanted to die with dignity and not on conditions that i cannot even go to toilets or take a shower
Yes, I know you did. You aren't someone who would ever criticize a suffering person.

I should have made it clearer that I was responding to those who were saying there was never an excuse for suicide.

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Yes, it's a clinical illness.

'Depression is a medical illness that involves the mind and body. Also called major depression, major depressive disorder and clinical depression, it affects how you feel, think and behave. Depression can lead to a variety of emotional and physical problems. You may have trouble doing normal day-to-day activities, and depression may make you feel as if life isn't worth living.

More than just a bout of the blues, depression isn't a weakness, nor is it something that you can simply "snap out" of. Depression is a chronic illness that usually requires long-term treatment, like diabetes or high blood pressure. But don't get discouraged. Most people with depression feel better with medication, psychological counseling or other treatment.
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http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/...depression.htm

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'Depression is more than just a low mood - it's a serious illness. While we all feel sad, moody or low from time to time, some people experience these feelings intensely, for long periods of time and often without reason. People with depression find it hard to function every day and may be reluctant to participate in activities they once enjoyed.

Depression is one of the most common of all mental health problems. One in five people experience depression at some stage of their lives.'

http://www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx?link_id=89

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Honestly didn't know that about depression. Thanks for the Info (Manon).

As for the Heaven bit, that's what I was taught at Sunday School. It's the sin of Murder nonetheless.When I was younger a terminally ill aunt of mine threw herself down a well and my teacher told that sadly she wouldn't be going to heaven. Which sucks because she was already near the end anyways.
That was a terrible thing for a boy to hear. Even people who are religious are sometimes not very kind.


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I wonder if the same sentiment is also for all those poor unknowns who die from drug abuse. To be honest, Celebs don't help the situation by doing drugs because they are not advertising how bad it is, instead people see drugs as a cool thing celebs do.
No one helps anything by doing drugs or getting drunk. I guess it's part of the human condition, and addiction is a dreadful thing. I'm just happy I've escaped being addicted to anything more than cigarettes, and thank goodness that's behind me now.
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i think you got me wrong, i mentioned about people having physical pain cannot be blamed for wanting to kill themselves, that does not mean I think physical pain is worst than mental pain, and that people with mental pain cannot be forgiven for wanting to kill themselves
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I wonder if the same sentiment is also for all those poor unknowns who die from drug abuse. To be honest, Celebs don't help the situation by doing drugs because they are not advertising how bad it is, instead people see drugs as a cool thing celebs do.
I agree with this statement: it's odd to hear all these celebrities crying and releasing statements about how much they miss her and feeling sad over her death, when I'm sure most of them didn't give a shit about her addictions when she was alive. I know many people refuse to go and get themselves help, and you really can't force someone into it, but I think it's better to show sympathy with doing everything you can to help her when she was alive during her tough times rather than only seeming to care now that's she's gone. Lindsay Lohan is going through similar issues, and it seems like most people find her situation funny or sad, but no one seems to reach out a hand to help her.

Of course I don't know what went on behind the scenes or anything, so just giving my two cents. Such a shame that such a young, talented person was lost at so young an age. RIP Amy.
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They tried to make her go to rehab but she said No, no, no. RIP Amy.
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As for the Heaven bit, that's what I was taught at Sunday School. It's the sin of Murder nonetheless.When I was younger a terminally ill aunt of mine threw herself down a well and my teacher told that sadly she wouldn't be going to heaven. Which sucks because she was already near the end anyways.

Well, now that you are more grown up why haven't you rejected all the crap you were taught at Sunday School?

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They tried to make her go to rehab but she said No, no, no. RIP Amy.
Well, she was certainly upfront about where she was headed. I wonder what other messages are in her songs.
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Well, she was certainly upfront about where she was headed. I wonder what other messages are in her songs.
I think she bloody well realized where she was heading, indeed...
Listening to her music right now. Damn, what a voice. Damn, what a WASTE!
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