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Old 08-24-2012, 07:04 PM   #451
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"He has killed 77 people, most of them youth, who were shot without mercy, face to face. The cruelty is unparalleled in Norwegian history," Judge Arne Lyng said. "This means that the defendant even after serving 21 years in prison would be a very dangerous man."
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/B...#ixzz24UYbDsFF

funny how that judge already has his mind set that the man should be kept in jail after his sentence. shouldn't that have to be decided after completing the sentence?
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:07 PM   #452
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You are using your own definition of "sane". The Norwegians certainly do not consider him to be "normal", but he might have gotten another kind of punishment if he had been labeled "criminally insane". This is better.
i don't care about the punishment myself. i care more about the image it gives to other nutcases like him.

fact this, this trial went exactly as brevik wanted it to be. he got his chance to speak up and then be declared sane, as he wanted as well. if he had been declared insane, his cause would be more widely perceived a crazy. right now there's a slim chance that far right groups will make a hero out of him in the future, as he wanted as well.

take this guy for example:


"It was obviously wrong what he did, but there was logic to all of it," said Stephen Lennon, the 29-year-old leader of the English Defense League, an anti-Muslim group. "By saying that he was sane, it gives a certain credibility to what he had been saying. And that is, that Islam is a threat to Europe and to the world."
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[Trollspindoc]21 years? That's just a slap on the wrist. This guy deserves to be hanged.[/Trollspindoc]
Hanged? No, that's far too kind. In middle ages, skilled torturers could make their victim last for weeks, I think their skills would be appreciated in this particular case - of course in liberal, Euro prison the guy will probably die from overeating
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funny how that judge already has his mind set that the man should be kept in jail after his sentence. shouldn't that have to be decided after completing the sentence?
You are just whining for the sake of whining. If he was declared insane then there was no responsibility for the crimes which were clearly planned out over an extended period of time. The victims of the families are happy he was declared sane.

Pretty obvious that this guy is going to be a menace to society without any chances of reformation. Since there is no death penalty nor should be, then he isn't getting out.
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It's gonna be interesting to see what we do in Sweden with the so called "Laser man" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ausonius who was sentenced to life but has already served 18 years now. Also a serial killer with some ideological issues but is according to himself a very changed man now. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to keep him in for life anyway.

In 2010 he attempted to get his life sentece changed to a fixed term sentence but was rejected. He will no doubt try that again every chance he gets.

In Norways case one could wonder why they don't have an actual "life-sentence"

In Sweden life sentence "usually" means 12-20 years in prison but for very severe criminals we got the option to hold them. Until death.


In Breiviks case he will no doubt serve the full 21 years but after that what will they do? invent some stuff so they can add more years to the sentence? That's a bit backwards. Time for Norway to learn from their neighboor again.
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What I don't understand is why he's not serving a life sentence for each of his victims. 77 people x 21 years (10 years minimum) should mean he never gets released.
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It's gonna be interesting to see what we do in Sweden with the so called "Laser man" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ausonius who was sentenced to life but has already served 18 years now. Also a serial killer with some ideological issues but is according to himself a very changed man now. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to keep him in for life anyway.

In 2010 he attempted to get his life sentece changed to a fixed term sentence but was rejected. He will no doubt try that again every chance he gets.

In Norways case one could wonder why they don't have an actual "life-sentence"

In Sweden life sentence "usually" means 12-20 years in prison but for very severe criminals we got the option to hold them. Until death.


In Breiviks case he will no doubt serve the full 21 years but after that what will they do? invent some stuff so they can add more years to the sentence? That's a bit backwards. Time for Norway to learn from their neighboor again.
Learn from Sweden, yes come over to Norway to work and pay lower Swedish taxes, that's the way Norway has to learn. Yes, can also send people back to countries where they can be tortured. Though Norway did learn the state sterilisation of the invalid, Romany, orphans and the poor in the 30s to the early 70s.

Invent stuff, what part of he is a danger and a menace to society do you not understand? How is something so simple to understand yet so difficult.


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What I don't understand is why he's not serving a life sentence for each of his victims. 77 people x 21 years (10 years minimum) should mean he never gets released.
Reading comprehension I didn't think was a weakness of yours.
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1

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Reading comprehension I didn't think was a weakness of yours.
Jimnik was referring to the difference between consecutive and concurrent sentences. What part of that did you not understand?
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