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Old 10-09-2013, 08:37 AM   #376
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Can You tell me what is your Training Schedule etc? What time you get up and how many hours you put in training and in Gym etc. Top players spend minimum 4 Hours in Physical Training i.e. apart from the Time spent on Court. I am guessing they spend around 14- 16 Hours dedicated to their Sport.
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My 2 cents here - play more tournaments where you are competitive, with guys your level or slightly above. It will give you much more than getting baggeled week in week out.

Trust me, you should move the levels one by one, there are lessons from this you can't ignore and you couldn't move ahead without.

You have enough time and obviously enough dedication, so don't force things through, one step at a time.

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I will never be happy just doing that stuff, man. Trust me, I've tried it. First off, you can't get any coaching job unless you have some career in the first place. Second, commentary, writing, umpiring, all that other shit, I will never be happy doing that, I've done it. I've worked in tennis pro shops, I've worked giving lessons and shit, and I am beyond depressed while doing it. I can't just play tennis on the weekends, I will never be happy doing that.

Yes, I know it is risky to do things the way I am doing. Yes I know the odds are 1 billion trillion to 1 or whatever that I will succeed. But there is a chance, I'm sayin' there's a chance. If there is even a sniff of a chance of me making it, which there is, I can't NOT take it. If that means I end up sleeping in my car for a couple of years, if I lose all my friends, if I don't get married and start a family until well into my 30's, then so be it, that is my plan anyway.

I can't just be another average schmuck without at least giving it everything I have to this sport. If I quit now, I will always look back and wonder. I can't do that. Of course I've thought about it. Of course I've considered giving it up, getting a regular job, settling down with a nice girl, etc. etc., of course those things have crossed my mind, how could it not with my results so far?

But there is this thing inside of me, this fire, this voice telling me not to give up, not to give in, to keep going. Despite the financial straits I am in, despite my results being poor so far, despite suffering every injury under the sun almost between age 17-23. I could have quit millions of times, I could have given it up years ago.

But still I rise. Still I work, still I compete, still I have the passion to go out there every day and train, then go deliver pizzas 5 nights a week until 1 AM. It may sound like a shitty life to those on the outside, but it is your mentality. My mentality is that I AM going to make it, and that I have turned a corner recently and things are REALLY going to start happening now. Life is NOT easy when every rational person and thought is telling me to quit but my soul tells me to carry on.

There must be a reason why I have fought so long. There must be a reason I have suffered and fought through every injury I've had so far. There must be a reason why I have bought and read dozens of tennis books and biographies of all the tennis greats of the past, downloaded and watched tennis matches from the 60's to today. There must be a reason why I have researched the game from the fucking 1870's until today and read all the results and scores, with no prodding from anyone else. There must be a reason, and it must be more than just posting on MTF.

I still believe I will make it.
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I've always felt you were one of the better posters on here and this post confirmed it. Your bolded part is especially true, and the biggest thing I want to avoid. I would not be able to live with myself, I would be tortured mentally with such a thought in the back of my mind.

If you don't mind, what was the reason you stopped recording and touring? Did you lose the passion for it at all?
It was multifactorial really, but definitely not a loss of passion. I had a deadline to make the decision to finish my degree or to leave and pursue music for the rest of my life and I chose the former. For one, touring is hard on the body, it's incredibly hard to stay healthy. It's hard to exercise, there's rarely a chance to cook anything, and there's a huge culture of drugs/alcohol. Secondly, I know I want to propose to my girlfriend soon and for that I knew I needed to be financially secure and settled (not travelling all the time). Music is also different from tennis in the sense you can keep playing at a high level even when you're old, so even if I won't be able to make a career out of it, it's not like I'll ever have to stop playing/writing/recording.

I kind of agree with what the others said about checkpoints. Its important to always have definitive endpoints for your short term goals and to always be reevaluating your progress.
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Do you have some checkpoints? For example, if two or three years later you're still not pro will you reconsider it then? Surely no need to wait you are actually 40 to know whether you can make it or no?
Well, at this point I am taking one day at a time, one tournament at a time. I am graduating college in May, so we will see where I am then.

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Johnny, it's great that you're not getting disheartened by the losses etc.

Perhaps a coach would help, although I know that's not easy given how much it would cost to get one. Is there not like Tennis training camps around your area where you could get coached for say a 6 week period ?
If only A one hour lesson with a coach costs as much as I make in an 8 hour shift

Again, I don't need coaching, I need to get 100% healthy and improve my serve, especially 2nd serve. I know what I need to do, I'm not paying somebody 50-100 USD per hour to tell me to bend my knees and toss the ball higher.

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This makes sense to me. By all means give yourself a period of time where you 100% commit to trying to make it happen, but if it's not happening for you after that time has elapsed, accept that and move on to other things.

Sometimes life is about achieving dreams and sometimes it's about letting dreams go and making your peace with that. Giving all you have to achieve a dream is admirable but these things are often out of your hands. Good luck, anyway.
Thanks scoobs, we gonna see what's going on the next few months.

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Well, I've got 2 jobs other than playing tennis at the moment. I'd love to be out there 4 hours a day, but it is not always possible. If I am working until 1 AM every night, asleep by 2, up by 10 (really need 10 hours, but whatever), on court from 12-3, then work until 1 AM. Gym wise, I don't really need to lift at the moment, I am strong enough, at the moment. I need more court time is what I need, just hitting millions of serves and back rehab. Those are my focuses now.

That is basically my schedule, and it is not enough. I need more sleep and more training and less work, but I need the money, so it is a big Rubik's Cube at the moment.

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My 2 cents here - play more tournaments where you are competitive, with guys your level or slightly above. It will give you much more than getting baggeled week in week out.

Trust me, you should move the levels one by one, there are lessons from this you can't ignore and you couldn't move ahead without.

You have enough time and obviously enough dedication, so don't force things through, one step at a time.

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Do you have a regular diet or you or you indulge yourself in pizzas, calzones, icecreams etc?
do you do drugs/smoke?
Is this even a question? Come on, man. My diet is strict as fuck. I count carbs, calories, proteins, what to eat, when to eat, etc.

My body is a science experiment at this point.

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It was multifactorial really, but definitely not a loss of passion. I had a deadline to make the decision to finish my degree or to leave and pursue music for the rest of my life and I chose the former. For one, touring is hard on the body, it's incredibly hard to stay healthy. It's hard to exercise, there's rarely a chance to cook anything, and there's a huge culture of drugs/alcohol. Secondly, I know I want to propose to my girlfriend soon and for that I knew I needed to be financially secure and settled (not travelling all the time). Music is also different from tennis in the sense you can keep playing at a high level even when you're old, so even if I won't be able to make a career out of it, it's not like I'll ever have to stop playing/writing/recording.

I kind of agree with what the others said about checkpoints. Its important to always have definitive endpoints for your short term goals and to always be reevaluating your progress.
Thanks for the response, man. The biggest thing is probably you wanting to propose to your woman soon. Which is understandable, I have that desire also in the future. If I was in your shoes probably I would have done the same. But I'm single at the moment and don't plan on settling down for another decade or so.

Checkpoints, well we gonna see what's going on. There is no tournament this weekend, but then 3 in 3 straight weeks. I am working hard every single day, tennis and 2 jobs now, I'm gonna do everything I can, and we gonna see
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When is your next tournament? I found this thread yesterday and thinking about starting one for me if I play more tournaments, but I am younger.
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Getting an ATP ranking should be your primary goal right now, the rest will come in time and with practice. Just focus on winning a match on a Futures main draw. You can do it, Johnny.
And that is attainable. That's the ceiling for Johnny, a few futures wins here and there and a ranking in the 1-thousands. And Johnny, you should not be disheartened by that accomplishment. There are very good players even in future qualie draws and getting an ATP rank is no small accomplishment. If you can build yourself up to that level than that is a huge accomplishment, unfortunately that isn't nearly good enough to support yourself financially but it is good enough to get some clout to be a coach later on in life if you do decide to go the coaching route. And I agree coaching lessons kinda sucks, but college tennis or coaching competitive juniors is a different animal because there is the raw competitiveness there that can satisfy a competitive person.
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any random pro in the top 2000 would beat you 6-0 6-0 without breaking a sweat. Luis Patino of Mexico ranked 1130? 6-0 6-0 with a heavy camping backpack on.

how are you going to compete with them?
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Any guy who one rep benches 50kg, or whatever it is, whilst being on a strict diet, is certainly not destined to become any kind of athlete.

You've always been kind of a nutter, much less now that you got outed about telling fibs on your Mcdonalds shoot-out stories and fathering babies etc but still, this is pretty funny.
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I have no interest in being the next Thomas Drouet.

If I am good enough to be a hitting partner, I'm good enough to play on the tour.
I was referring to being a WTA hitting partner, but I see that you don't want to be out of the spotlight to the actual pro

Now- if you really want to get an ATP point, you're going to have to make some HUGE changes to your game. It's pretty fucking obvious you don't have the talent to do it, even considering you have great fitness and the passion of 5 Nadals. (Not your fault, you started playing at 15).

The only way for you to get anywhere is to play out of your comfort zone. The typical aggressive grinder is so common and there are thousands of people better at it than you. You need to be focusing on troubling your opponents game and picking out their weakness, instead of focusing on playing your own game. Develop a killer forehand slice, ballbash into the center of the court, moonball to an opponent’s forehand and charge the net. 3 underrated tactics.

Either that, or get a sex change. It’s expensive, but you might get into the top 200 that way
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And that is attainable. That's the ceiling for Johnny, a few futures wins here and there and a ranking in the 1-thousands. And Johnny, you should not be disheartened by that accomplishment. There are very good players even in future qualie draws and getting an ATP rank is no small accomplishment. If you can build yourself up to that level than that is a huge accomplishment, unfortunately that isn't nearly good enough to support yourself financially but it is good enough to get some clout to be a coach later on in life if you do decide to go the coaching route. And I agree coaching lessons kinda sucks, but college tennis or coaching competitive juniors is a different animal because there is the raw competitiveness there that can satisfy a competitive person.
Realistically though even that's not even close to an attainable goal unless he is playing all futures in Burundi, Rwanda, etc. and draws some local wild card.

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OP is U.S. 4.0-4.5 level which is closer to beginner than it is to ATP #1000.

This is not even a delusional individual with big dreams. It's just a 2+ year troll attempt.

<runs back to the tennis only forums>
Yes. And it's quite an effective troll attempt.
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