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Old 05-13-2013, 09:35 PM   #361
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Are you kidding me? That's going to be the best part of the season. Really curious how they are going to depict that.
Of course it will, but it'll be very sad for a Stark fan boy
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True, but they will still have Arya.

I can only imagine how the RW will blindside those who have not read the books.
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It'll hit them even harder than Eddard Stark death.
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Too many spoilers in this thread.
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Yeah, most shocking occurence in the books so far for sure.
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I was very annoyed how much the series departed from the book this episode.

Why are they setting up some personal confrontation between Joffery and Tywyn Lannister?

The torture porn scenes turned in to just porn. Totally unnecessary.

Almost every scene was a departure from the book in mysterious and confusing ways.

Jamie did rescue Brienne, but I kind of liked that in the book almost everyone enjoying seeing Brienne in the pit got killed. I guess having the bear killed was too much for the producers.

The interaction between the red woman and Robert's by-blow continues to bug as does the relationship between Ygritte and Jon Snow. At least Ygritte looked absolutely lovely in this episode. She's better suited to green backgrounds. And now the tower is a freaking windmill???

All in all it was annoying, and so slowly creeping toward the meat of the book with all these unnecessary and made up scenes that aren't in the book.
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Might as well change the series name to Game of Porn. This last episode was a waste of time.

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True, but they will still have Arya.

I can only imagine how the RW will blindside those who have not read the books.
I got spoiled for that one by reading a thread about the show. I was furious, especially because I was a few hundred pages away from it. And I already knew about the other shocker.
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Don't really like how they're focusing so much on the torture of Theon... a bit too graphic in my opinion and it really doesn't seem to take the story forward.

A bit of a filler episode I think, compared to some of the better episodes this season.

For those who have read the books, don't spoil the show please.
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All these wars going on and barely a fight in the series. You'd think all these 7 kingdoms was nothing but a few kids, teens, useless kings, whores and a dwarf.


Better pick up for the final 3 episodes. To much uneventful soap opera atm for my taste
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Better pick up for the final 3 episodes. To much uneventful soap opera atm for my taste
There are very few wars in the book really, I think because of the POV style you get alot of personal stories that dont add up so much to the powergame and the powergame in itself is mostly intrigue in the court like say Borgias and not big battles.

Tywin has a famous quote in the book that goes "some wars are won with swords others with quills and ravens".

Marriages, alliances and intrigue in Kings Landings is more important than the battles.

Right now we have several big marriages as the aftermath of the battle in season 2 leaves people regrouping with new alliances beeing made. Margeary-Jeoffrey, Edmure-Frey, Cersei-Loras, Tyrion-Sansa, Littlefinger-Lysa. Keep attention because these things matter a great deal to the power struggle.

Then in the end this show is not about the struggle for power in itself but what great loss is inflicted on all families involved in this struggle for power. So, in its hearth it is a drama, even in some ways a tragedy and not an action series.
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I have to say I'm pretty disappointed with this season especially considering that book three is my favorite in the entire series. They changed so many scenes and characters, cut out some of my fav scenes and gave us pointless fillers instead. But I cannot wait for both weddings, it'll be a real shocker to people who didn't read the books!
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Don't really like how they're focusing so much on the torture of Theon... a bit too graphic in my opinion and it really doesn't seem to take the story forward.

A bit of a filler episode I think, compared to some of the better episodes this season.

For those who have read the books, don't spoil the show please.
I know!! It's disturbing enough in the book and there it's only referred to in thoughts.

I saw a little interview with the producers and they were laughing about how much they were enjoying these torture scenes.

I just don't understand why they think it's necessary to have all these made up scenes and why they change the characters. I have a feeling we are going to see major departures from the book.

Thankfully, I just fast forward through the torture scenes.
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I know!! It's disturbing enough in the book and there it's only referred to in thoughts.

I saw a little interview with the producers and they were laughing about how much they were enjoying these torture scenes.

I just don't understand why they think it's necessary to have all these made up scenes and why they change the characters. I have a feeling we are going to see major departures from the book.

Thankfully, I just fast forward through the torture scenes.
I just they just didnt know how to have the character convey what had happened to him later through inner monologues. Theon's later story depends alot on his inner monologues for us to believe in his transformation into this broken shell, a completely different human beeing.
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God... Just saw the latest episode, and it is SO slow.

I had not heard about them wanting to stop in the middle of book 3. I think that's a mistake, seriously. Right now, there is just NOTHING happening in those episodes.
I mean, since the beginning of season 3, what significant events have happened?
Jaime got his hand cut off, Daenerys bought her Unsullied, and Sansa got married to Tyrion. Really, I don't know if there was anything else, but I can think only of those two things.

Oh, but we had plenty of pointless "sassy"/"venomous" dialogue scenes that were cool but also repetitive, and lasted 30 seconds before moving to something else, plenty of invented material, plenty of Theon torture scenes and just in case we don't get it yet, more of the "Joffrey is a sick bastard" scenes.

I think the biggest problem I have, is that in addition to having the impression that every episode I've seen so far was a "transitional" episode, I also have the impression that they have lost any sense of pace.
The latest episode was slightly better, they did leave a couple of characters aside(no Jaime, no Brienne, no Jon, no Robb or Catelyn).
But we still had too many small bits of scenes.

Arya & The Hound is an awesome passage, we need to spend more time on this, or else keep it for the next episode. Same for Sam and the Other, why give us 2 minutes of Sam and Gilly in the last episode, and come back to them for 2 more minutes in this one (and for one rather important event)?
I mean, I don't know shit about making movies, but even I can see that this pacing is complete crap. There is potential in this series for great tension, but if you don't let the tension build up, then it's just a succession of scenes that lead you painstakingly towards yet another dramatic season finale.

Oh, and for once, there was one sex scene I would have liked to see, that Daario/Dany scene, and for once, they didn't show it! Are they doing this just to bug me or what?

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I know!! It's disturbing enough in the book and there it's only referred to in thoughts.

I saw a little interview with the producers and they were laughing about how much they were enjoying these torture scenes.

I just don't understand why they think it's necessary to have all these made up scenes and why they change the characters. I have a feeling we are going to see major departures from the book.

Thankfully, I just fast forward through the torture scenes.
They have already departed from the books A LOT.

I don't mind torture scenes per se. What I do mind, is when they are unnecessary. Your quote about the producers having a blast because there are torture scenes is just confirming what I already felt: they are trying to add more and more sex and violence just "for the thrills."
And you can just feel how unnecessary they are. This is what bothers me. The show is looking cheaper and cheaper. In French we have a word for that, "racoleur" (the dictionnary says the English is "lurid", but I don't think there is any adequate translation). That's what you say when a show just keeps putting in pointless shocking stuff just to attract casual viewers.


Well, in other words, I still love Game of Thrones, but I am disappointed in this 3rd season.

I have started watching The Borgias, I was afraid it would be very cheap (since the Borgias have such a black legend around them...), but actually, I'm loving it. Amazing cast, great dialogues, AND a good sense of pacing! I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks that, but for now, I'd say that even though Game of Thrones season 1 was awesome, The Borgias seasons 1 & 2 >> Games of Thrones seasons 2 & 3. I'll see very soon if they could maintain the quality in season 3 or if they are heading the same way as Game of Thrones.
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God... Just saw the latest episode, and it is SO slow.

I had not heard about them wanting to stop in the middle of book 3. I think that's a mistake, seriously. Right now, there is just NOTHING happening in those episodes.
I mean, since the beginning of season 3, what significant events have happened?
Jaime got his hand cut off, Daenerys bought her Unsullied, and Sansa got married to Tyrion. Really, I don't know if there was anything else, but I can think only of those two things.

Oh, but we had plenty of pointless "sassy"/"venomous" dialogue scenes that were cool but also repetitive, and lasted 30 seconds before moving to something else, plenty of invented material, plenty of Theon torture scenes and just in case we don't get it yet, more of the "Joffrey is a sick bastard" scenes.

I think the biggest problem I have, is that in addition to having the impression that every episode I've seen so far was a "transitional" episode, I also have the impression that they have lost any sense of pace.
The latest episode was slightly better, they did leave a couple of characters aside(no Jaime, no Brienne, no Jon, no Robb or Catelyn).
But we still had too many small bits of scenes.

Arya & The Hound is an awesome passage, we need to spend more time on this, or else keep it for the next episode. Same for Sam and the Other, why give us 2 minutes of Sam and Gilly in the last episode, and come back to them for 2 more minutes in this one (and for one rather important event)?
I mean, I don't know shit about making movies, but even I can see that this pacing is complete crap. There is potential in this series for great tension, but if you don't let the tension build up, then it's just a succession of scenes that lead you painstakingly towards yet another dramatic season finale.

Oh, and for once, there was one sex scene I would have liked to see, that Daario/Dany scene, and for once, they didn't show it! Are they doing this just to bug me or what?
They had no option really, between 10 episodes for Storm of Swords cutting alot of characters and plots to make it super plotdriven and no time for character development or a more slowly paced beginning of season 3 to catch up with characters previously cut (Barristan, Ramsay, Reeds, etc.) and then let the stone start rolling at end of season 3 to season 4, I certanly prefer the later option.

Producers already said they can not possibly do more than 10 episodes per season because of the long distances between locations and complications shooting the series.

So, would you rather have super condensed 10 episodes with crazy things happening and characters barely having time to develop and cutting alot of important players to what they are doing now?

The ideal situation may have been 15 episodes season, I rather like slow paced series where things are properly introduced and I would hate to see them cut small character moments to make explosive events drive the show every episode.

I loved this episode by the way. 3rd best episode after 4-5. Last 2 episodes of the season and season 4 will be amazing covering the sick last half of Storm of Swords and the long set up will make the climax so much more rewarding and we will come to care more what happens to these characters as we got time invested in them.

The Wire would not have the most amazing moments of catharsis in TV history without the slow buildup in the beginning-middle part of the seasons.
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