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Old 04-09-2008, 06:08 AM   #1
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here is a dream Roland Garros final if we could just invent one. Borg vs Nadal. this would be the stuff the dreams are made of.

it is clear enough to me that the Angelic Assasin ( Borg )stands as the greatest clay court player ever lived. his 6 French Opens attest to his all time greatness on that surface. he was essentially unbeatable on clay. players knew long before they even got to the tournament site that they had no chance against Borg.

how would Borg have done against Nadal had he been here today in his 20`s and armed with the same advances in technology as it relates to racquets, strings, training, and sports medicine. would he have taken Nadal to cleaners in a best of 5 sets final at Roland Garros? or would it have been close and gone 5 sets? you know that Borg won better than 81% of his matches that went the distance. he was almost always the last man standing in those situations.

compare and contrast the 2 monsters on clay. how are they different? what are the similarities? what are their distinctive core competencies/competitive advantages?

finally, can Nadal top Borg`s record of 6 French Opens? what will it take?

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Old 04-09-2008, 06:56 AM   #2
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Nadal would win easily due to his monster topspin. In fact Federer would easily beat Borg in any French Open matchup. Diffrent generations Clay Death, you should know that.
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Nadal would win easily due to his monster topspin. In fact Federer would easily beat Borg in any French Open matchup. Diffrent generations Clay Death, you should know that.

let me see if i understand this correctly. you say that Nadal would win easily because of his topspin but so would Federer who is without the benefit of much topspin.

secondly, Nadal owns Fed. would Borg not own Fed too?

***in case you didnt notice, i made the needed assumption to eliminate the "different eras/generations" premise. i said that lets assume that Borg is here today and he is in his 20`s. further, i added that lets give Borg the same tools everybody else has today.
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CD - Federer's topspin is only 2nd to Nadal's if you pay attention to the matches. Also Fed can moonball with the best of them. Of course then there's Fed's other talents which ALL put together would beat Borg on any surface.
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Too much time has passed.
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compare and contrast the 2 monsters on clay. how are they different? what are the similarities? what are their distinctive core competencies/competitive advantages?

finally, can Nadal top Borg`s record of 6 French Opens? what will it take?
Nadal would win 9 out 10 for sure
Nadal has the better serve, the better volleys, Borg could put massive top-spin on the ball but that was with wooden rackets, clearly he'd have a hard time doing the same with modern technology. Add to that Borg's poor physical condition and choking tendencies and there can only be one winner
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Thinking about this question seriously.

Nadal is already better than Borg, Lendl, Wilander, Muster, Kuerten, Vilas and Burguera at their peaks combined to the power of 99999999999999999999999.
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PMK, no that's the power of ^9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999. Your hyperbole is seriously deficient when it comes to Nadal. After all past performance is a 100% indicator of future success, no? I mean it's absolutely 100% guaranteed that Nadal will sweep the clay season again....
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They both did well on clay.

Wow, so many similarities :retard:
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They both did well on clay.

Wow, so many similarities :retard:
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Borg was better than Nadal in the following departments:
Backhand
Serve
Volleys
Fitness
Mobility

The only department where I would say that Nadal is better than Borg, would be his crosscourt forehand (his forehand down the line is not a shot he can hit consistently well).
This is not a 'Nadal sucks' argument, but a 'Nadal is absolutely amazing, Borg was even more amazing than that' one.
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PMK, no that's the power of ^9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999. Your hyperbole is seriously deficient when it comes to Nadal. After all past performance is a 100% indicator of future success, no? I mean it's absolutely 100% guaranteed that Nadal will sweep the clay season again....
So have you learnt the scoring system in tennis yet. Answer the next question which bandwagon are you jumping to next.

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Does it matter who would win?
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Little bit off topic, but here is video how Borg and Mac played senior tournament in Denmark last year. I wonder how will Nadal look like when he is 51.y.o and how he will play (if he will able to play at all, he has bad knees already at his young age)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sci90ZFa0G4
P.S.Sorry that TV company screwed up aspect ratio

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I was looking at more like comparing Nadal and Gasquet on clay. Clearly Gasquet is the more talented and hence the less successful.
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