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Old 04-01-2011, 04:20 PM   #76
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Qualifying First Round
Matches Counted: 0
Matches Remaining: ?


00:00 |(1)Tomek. (POL) vs. bye
00:00 |joe87 (AUT) vs. nole_no1 (ROU)
00:00 |(2)Broseghini (BRA) vs. bye
00:00 |Craven91 (GBR) vs. JBdV (FRA)

00:00 |(3)Frank Toet (NED) vs. bye
00:00 |Bashak (TUR) vs. WWT (BEL)
00:00 |(4)Mr Brightside (ITA) vs. Dudisela75 (CAN)
00:00 |NoFroz (URU) vs. Tankman (AUS)


There were 9 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

3. joe87 (AUT) 288
13. nole_no1 (ROU) NRLE
6. Craven91 (GBR) NR
8. JBdV (FRA) NR
2. Bashak (TUR) 281
7. WWT (BEL) NR
5. Dudisela75 (CAN) 301
9. NoFroz (URU) NR
4. Tankman (AUS) 290
Timestamp: 2011-04-01 15:18:28 UTC
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:23 PM   #77
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orangehat, on qualy draw have 8 Seeds or only 4? Do you about one rule that talk this?
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orangehat, on qualy draw have 8 Seeds or only 4? Do you about one rule that talk this?
I used to do 8 but I think I was wrong.

No. of seeds should = (maximum no. of possible players)*0.25

So in a 16 player draw there should be 4 seeds, 32 player draw 8 seeds, 64 player draw 16 seeds and 128 player draw 32 seeds.
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:26 PM   #79
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I think it's supposed to be 8 but if you don't have a full qualifying draw maybe it changes.
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I used to do 8 but I think I was wrong.

No. of seeds should = (maximum no. of possible players)*0.25

So in a 16 player draw there should be 4 seeds, 32 player draw 8 seeds, 64 player draw 16 seeds and 128 player draw 32 seeds.
But for example on Masters 1000 Miami Qualy Draw on real life have half players seed and another half without.

I think that the tournament have the chance to decide about the Number of Seeds. What do you think about this?
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But for example on Masters 1000 Miami Qualy Draw on real life have half players seed and another half without.

I think that the tournament have the chance to decide about the Number of Seeds. What do you think about this?
Good point, I forgot about the Masters draws

Honestly? I didn't check Murilo's thread about this

I guess it's up to you most of the time (I just don't think seeding NR is appropriate, the rest is fine)
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:34 PM   #82
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Good point, I forgot about the Masters draws

Honestly? I didn't check Murilo's thread about this

I guess it's up to you most of the time (I just don't think seeding NR is appropriate, the rest is fine)
Players without ranking cannot be seed i think.

On San Jose Qualy Challenger only Grilli was a player with ranking and with this only he get enter on Qualy Draw like Seed.
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:35 PM   #83
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Ok. I'll be away later () so scoobs will be posting the OoP.

Do remember to send your picks to orangehat though
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OOP - Matches count for Singles and Doubles Qualifying, R1



Sadik KADIR (AUS) vs Benjamen BALLARET (MON) SR1 PTS
Brian BATTISTONE (USA) vs Philipp OSWALD (AUT) SR2 PTS
Matteo VOLANTE (ITA) vs David MARTIN (USA) SR3 PTS
Marco BORTOLOTTI (ITA) vs Nicolo COTTO (ITA) SR5 PTS
Lorenzo FRIGERIO (ITA) vs Emanuele MOLINA (ITA) SR5 PTS
Mateusz KOWALCZYK (POL) vs Francesco ZACCHIA (ITA) SR6 PTS
Alessando BEGA (ITA) vs Yann DUPUY (FRA) SR7 PTS
Luca Andrea MAGNI (ITA) vs Adelchi VIRGILI (ITA) SR8 PTS
Trent AARON (USA) vs Martin EMMRICH (GER) SR9 PTS
Luca OTTAVI (ITA) vs Jacopo BARTOLINI (ITA) SR10 PTS




Picks to orangehat by 10:00 CEST / 09:00 BST / 04:00 EST


Sorry about the OOP - this must be one of the world challenger qualifying draws I have ever seen
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Thank God, I have a place in the main draw competitions!!
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Qualifying First Round
Matches Counted: 0
Matches Remaining: 10


00:00 |(1)Tomek. (POL) vs. bye

00:00 |joe87 (AUT) vs. nole_no1 (ROU)
no picks either

00:00 |(2)Broseghini (BRA) vs. bye

00:00 |Craven91 (GBR) vs. JBdV (FRA)
no picks Craven91

00:00 |(3)Frank Toet (NED) vs. bye

00:00 |Bashak (TUR) vs. WWT (BEL)
no picks Bashak

00:00 |(4)Mr Brightside (ITA) vs. Dudisela75 (CAN)
no picks Mr Brightside

00:00 |NoFroz (URU) vs. Tankman (AUS)
no picks Tankman
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Old 04-02-2011, 09:31 AM   #87
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so am I in MD already?
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so am I in MD already?
no

your opponent tmr needs to not send picks tmr.
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orangehat, on qualy draw have 8 Seeds or only 4? Do you about one rule that talk this?
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I used to do 8 but I think I was wrong.

No. of seeds should = (maximum no. of possible players)*0.25

So in a 16 player draw there should be 4 seeds, 32 player draw 8 seeds, 64 player draw 16 seeds and 128 player draw 32 seeds.
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I think it's supposed to be 8 but if you don't have a full qualifying draw maybe it changes.
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Players without ranking cannot be seed i think.

On San Jose Qualy Challenger only Grilli was a player with ranking and with this only he get enter on Qualy Draw like Seed.
This is the official rule:-

Qualifying (always two seeds for each MD spot):
4 Q draw (2 MD spots) - 4 seeds
8 Q draw (2 MD spots) - 4 seeds
16 Q draw (2 MD spots) - 4 seeds
16 Q draw (4 MD spots) - 8 seeds
32 Q draw (4 MD spots) - 8 seeds
32 Q draw (8 MD spots) - 16 seeds
64 Q draw (16 MD spots) - 32 seeds
128 Q draw (16 MD spots - 32 seeds

I have always followed this, even if sometimes it meant seeding a NR player - it was their reward for committing early!

So, Luke, I think you were right before and wrong when you changed your mind!

It's not really a big deal in the qualifying of a challenger when half the players don't send anyway, but the rule is there.
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no

your opponent tmr needs to not send picks tmr.
who will be my opponent

I hope not a bye
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