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View Poll Results: Are western lives presented as more valuable in world media?

Yes, sadly I think so 26 76.47%
No, I dont believe this 5 14.71%
Im undecided on this issue 3 8.82%
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:16 PM   #16
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sadly, yes. especially if you're white. western media will do anything to protect the lives of white people.
The media protects lives? And only white people? WOW. Good to know. If I get in trouble I won't call 911 for help, I'll call Wolf Blitzer.

Or are you just campaigning? If so give it a rest, you are already seeded high.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:59 PM   #17
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The media protects lives? And only white people? WOW. Good to know. If I get in trouble I won't call 911 for help, I'll call Wolf Blitzer.

Or are you just campaigning? If so give it a rest, you are already seeded high.
of course they do. the media has the mission to portray reality but what we often see is that it creates realities by excessive coverage of isolated incidents, by delegitimation of social movements, by distortion of facts and also by exposing flat out lies.

the more coverage something receives, the more chances are that the favoured end will be protected by the government. that's how it is and that's how it will keep going on.

As for the ACC, make of it what you want. I've been saying the same things since the moment i got here, a time in which the ACC wasn't a popularity contest, mind you.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:59 AM   #18
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I have no idea what you are talking about, but if the media protects lives, then I am all in favour of that.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:07 AM   #19
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what we often see is that it creates realities by excessive coverage of isolated incidents, .
Yes, I think you said that the media should not be giving time to things like honour killings in the Muslim world. You think that anything that makes someone other than the West look bad should not be aired. Which really means you want the media to be biased - but on your terms.

BTW, the trial in Canada of an Afghan immigrant, his wife and his son for murdering his three daughters and his other wife has finally ended. All three were put away for life. The daughters spoke to boys at school, so had to be put down like rats. The older wife was just thrown in the lake as well, why not, she was a little long in the tooth. I remember during the trial you argued that this would be typical of the western media, to report stuff like this.

But you are right in a way, in the Middle East, this would be non-news.
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Yes, I think you said that the media should not be giving time to things like honour killings in the Muslim world. You think that anything that makes someone other than the West look bad should not be aired. Which really means you want the media to be biased - but on your terms.
uhh, no. the point is that the mass western media deliberately picks stories like that in order to make the other side look bad.

btw, here's an interesting article of the partiality of the BBC when reporting the israeli palestinian conflict:

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In 2006, an independent panel of senior public figures published a report assessing the impartiality of the BBC’s coverage of the “Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”

The panel, chaired by Sir Quentin Thomas, a senior figure in the British Home Office, found “identifiable shortcomings, particularly in respect of gaps in coverage, analysis, context and perspective and in the consistent maintenance of the BBC’s own editorial standards.”

The Thomas Report, as it became known, was quickly shoved under the carpet by the BBC, even though it had originally been commissioned by the corporation’s own governors, and business continued as usual (“Report of the Independent Panel for the BBC Governors on Impartiality of BBC Coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict,” April 2006, available on the Internet Archive).

In the last few days, the shortcomings highlighted in the report have never seemed so glaring.

keep reading here: http://electronicintifada.net/conten...ts-truth/11894
and of course, the BBC is just one major news outlet that misrepresents reality to favour special interests. Examples are many. Owners few.
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Perhaps in light of todays bombings discussion on this issue of media coverage could continue in this thread out of respect for the Boston victims.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:46 PM   #22
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good bump.

3 westerners die in boston and everyone is acting as if the world is gonna end. at least there's no bush around or another middle eastern nation would be invaded
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:05 PM   #23
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3 westerners die in boston and everyone is acting as if the world is gonna end. at least there's no bush around or another middle eastern nation would be invaded
I remember how I and so many in my country and people around the world hung for days and weeks in breathless concern and suspense when Chileans and Bolivians were trapped deep in a mine and cried tears of joy when they were rescued. Their lives were important to me and to my countrymen,.

I also know that there have been recent mine disasters in this country that you never knew or cared about, Does that make the lives of the Chilean miners more important? No, of course not. It is simply the circumstance that causes the publicity, Just as you or most anybody doesn't know about the two people found dead here in the park or the man thrown in the river. It doesn't make their lives less important.

I think you know this already. But this is an occasion where you can give vent to your feelings and you use it for those purposes. I'm not surprised anymore than I'm surprised to learn that there were expressions of glee and mirth posted on MTF after learning that people had been killed and permanently maimed in the U.S.
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Fact is media is about What people want to hear/read/watch. What is so hard to understand about that? Some examples were given here, like the Myanmar disaster, well truth is a lot of people living in Europe, the US and the so called "western countries" don't even know Myanmar is a country! Is the ignorance sad to witness? Yes, but there is no way around it.

Does the media think westerners lives are more valuable? Of course not! Believing that takes even greater ignorance...
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I think this is getting more coverage than Breivik. There are school shootings with many more victims that get less coverage. The Western media is biased against Western media.
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Seriously now, the minute the press will be safe in countries like Iraq, Angola, Syria or Afghanistan, they will account for the atrocities that are surely taking place there. The impact of events is always greater in places where people think it's safe. If tomorrow morning, Notre Dame of Paris is bombed, it would count more than Afghanistan. Yes, of course it's unfair, but that's the way our "modern" society works. Never to build, always to destroy, no matter who we talk about as "The Destroyer". When people start dying in safe places, people always wonder "Where is safe? Where can we live in peace?"
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Seriously now, the minute the press will be safe in countries like Iraq, Angola, Syria or Afghanistan, they will account for the atrocities that are surely taking place there.
I don't think it's got to do with safety in those countries.
If you look for it, you can find good news reports from those "unsafe" countries. Those news reports are there, they just don't get as much attention.

I think it's more habit and what people get used to seeing. People are used to hearing about Afghanistan, Syria, etc. So, the impact of such news items is not as big as the impact of 2 explosions during a marathon which isn't exactly an expected event, unlike attacks in Syria for example.
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I think it's more habit and what people get used to seeing. People are used to hearing about Afghanistan, Syria, etc. So, the impact of such news items are not as big as the impact of 2 explosions during a marathon in a "safe" area in the world.
I think it's more related to what I said in the second part of my post, which you didn't quote. It's the impact of "acts of terrorism in places deemed safe" that gets the maximum attention.
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I think it's more related to what I said in the second part of my post, which you didn't quote. It's the impact of "acts of terrorism in places deemed safe" that gets the maximum attention.
It's not totally the case either IMO.

I mean, take 9/11 and then think about the terrorist attacks in Madrid and in London. Two safe areas when it happened. I wonder how many people could place a date on the attacks in Madrid and London without cheating (looking it up). 9/11 got the brunt of the attention in news reports, documentaries, movies,... (and still does).

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I mean, take 9/11 and then think about the terrorist attacks in Madrid and in London. Two safe areas. I wonder how many people could place a date on the attacks in Madrid and London without cheating (looking it up). 9/11 got the brunt of the attention in news reports, documentaries, movies,...
It's on a totally different scale. 9/11 caused so many victims compared to Madrid and London. There is no terrorist attack with the impact 9/11 had. Check the list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rorist_attacks
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