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Old 03-20-2011, 04:50 PM   #106
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I thought it was a UN resolution.
and?
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Old 03-20-2011, 05:25 PM   #107
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WWI was going to be a quick affair.

Chamberlain's triumphant document waving was going to wrap up the uncomfortable conflict with the man with the funny moustache.

The Iraq War was not going to be a war at all...
The US War Between the States was supposed to be quick too, only one or two battles. Instead, more Americans died than in all of the country's other wars combined to date (that's a lot of wars). Not to mention the destruction of an entire economy...

I would be surprised if the Western governments don't end up sending troops on the ground at some point.
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Default Re: Question - what should the world do about the situation in Libya?

The West butting in yet again. The problems in Africa can all be tied back to colonialism, and our continued interference is just perpetuating them.

I don't know when the West will finally realize that until nations learn to solve their problems on their own, they're never going to develop those ideals that we would like for them. You can't spread democracy through force, and you can't artificially create a society of freedom. Those have to be choices that societies make for themselves. You can't give freedom, it has to be demanded.

The pro-democracy movement in the Middle East has flourished recently in spite of our decades of interference, not because of it. We would be better off if we simply stayed out of the internal affairs of other nations. We can certainly wish them well and cheer for those looking to change their societies for the better, but military intervention will only make things worse.
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I have a proof Rafales are involved in the UNO assault: we have seen a fighter crashing on Ben Gazzi yesterday.
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MARCH 19, 2011 OBAMA: 'Today

OBAMA: 'Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world'...

MARCH 19, 2003

BUSH: 'American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger'

MARCH 24, 1999

CLINTON: My fellow Americans, today our Armed Forces joined our NATO allies in airstrikes against Serbian forces responsible for the brutality in Kosovo.


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Let's hope the world will be united in helping the masses purge the individual.


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western leaders switch alliances for the sole porpuse of defending their interests.

i don't believe for a second that they're invading libya because of the lybian people. there's got to be something for them to gain.
A whole lot of oil, of course.

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and?
And the UN speaks for the north, south, east and west.

At least you claim it does when you cite all those anti-Israel resolutions.
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And the UN speaks for the north, south, east and west.
not at all. the UN is a big joke where mostly the big western countries get to call the shots.


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At least you claim it does when you cite all those anti-Israel resolutions.
i've certainly never claimed any such thing about the UN so don't put words in my mouth. In fact, i don't think i've even referred to those UN anti-Israel resolutions or at least I don't remember doing so.
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:54 AM   #114
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MARCH 19, 2011 OBAMA: 'Today

OBAMA: 'Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world'...

MARCH 19, 2003

BUSH: 'American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger'

MARCH 24, 1999

CLINTON: My fellow Americans, today our Armed Forces joined our NATO allies in airstrikes against Serbian forces responsible for the brutality in Kosovo.
outcome in kosovo: huge american military bases, corrupt western-backed leaders, drug trafficking, allegations of mass organ tracking, spying from the west, etc, etc.

outcome in iraq: ongoing state of war, terrorism, poverty, deaths. oil secured for the interest of the western corporations. also huge reconstruction contracts given by america.

outome in lybia: remains to be seen but hey, it's all for the best and in the interest of democracy. why would the western leaders lie to us?
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Old 03-21-2011, 05:38 AM   #115
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_2H5...layer_embedded

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What an occupation,
To throw your bombs on an innocent nation...
What an occupation,
To be a soldier of United Nations
What an occupation,
To throw your bombs on an innocent nation...
What an occupation,
To be a soldier of United States, ah...
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I have to say, I am reading you all, and I am confused.

Can someone of those opposing the desicion to interfere in Libya outline the situations in which the western should interfere in what goes on outside its borders?
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:38 PM   #117
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Just attack, take ghadaffi out of power and let the lybians do their business.

If some taliban enters there, waiut for more 20 years and attack again.

Show us the power NATO, just show us.

Otherwise Palpatine Ghadaffi will kill the rebbelians.

CUT THE SNAKE HEAD!
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not at all. the UN is a big joke where mostly the big western countries get to call the shots.



I certainly agree with the joke bit. But I would argue that the joke is because it is run by an assortment of incompetent nations. Take the Human Rights Commission for example...........

Anyway, I thought Obama was reluctant to get into this and it was really brought on by Britain and France.
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Default Re: Question - what should the world do about the situation in Libya?

One bullet into Gadaffis head would be enough.
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Go Alexander, throw the vault in the head.
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