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Old 10-09-2011, 11:35 PM   #106
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Well the bottom line is skin complexion and physical attractiveness plays a big role in earnings as well.

Serena can win slams, but Sharapova's appearance can get her good earnings even if she left the calendar year slamless.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:50 PM   #108
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Well the bottom line is skin complexion and physical attractiveness plays a big role in earnings as well.

Serena can win slams, but Sharapova's appearance can get her good earnings even if she left the calendar year slamless.
There are exceptions of course. Nole is getting endorsements despite his equine facial features.

Also Pova is a hard worker and a dedicated athlete, things Serena is not.
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:36 AM   #109
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I'm implying that racism and prejudice could possibly exist in situations involving athletes and such a situation could easily favor some people over others. My two cents.
Want to provide a list of the athletes whose endorsement earnings are less than they could be because of racism? You sure as hell won't find that in the United States. According to Forbes magazine the top 3 highest paid athletes in the world are Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. Last time I checked every one of them was dark skinned. Or are you suggesting it's not the United States that's racist but the rest of the world?
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:06 AM   #110
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Yeah, if Nadal or Djokovic, were born in the U.S. I'm sure they would have gained better promotions and endorsements.

In Serena's situation though it's different. Serena (like her or not), isn't as physically attractive as Sharapova, and she has a darker complexion. I guess because in tennis you also land yourselves with endorsements that correlate with appearance (not just sports products) so she has a disadvantage when competing against someone like Sharapova. Whereas someone like Kobe or Lebron, don't worry too about endorsements that involve physical appearance, because the endorsements from sports products are powerful enough.
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So I think in sports like basketball, baseball perhaps, and football, people from all backgrounds can gain tons of great endorsements. People care more about their performance, not their appearance or identity.

But I think in sports like tennis which originally was referred to as an "upper class sport", physical attractiveness, background, etc. can help play a role in further endorsements.

I would say for this reason that someone like Monfils, would probably have less endorsements than Federer, even if he were born Swiss, and reached 16 slams. Could be wrong though.
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Well golf is considered an "upper class" sport too, no? And Tiger Woods makes more $$$ in endorsements than any athlete ever has in history. Sorry I don't buy the theory that Fed (or Sharapova) earn more in endorsement $$ because they're caucasian, not black. And I haven't seen any statistics or 'proof' to back up that theory.

Fed's obviously cultivated a reputation that corporations are drawn to. A Reputation Institute survey asked 51,000 people from across 25 countries to rank 54 well known leaders and public personalities (across business, sport, entertainment, politics, etc.). The respondents of this survey were asked to rank each of the 54 individuals based on 4 attributes: the degree to which a person is liked, respected, admired, and trusted. Fed placed 2nd in this survey behind Nelson Mandela. Obviously the corporations that Fed has endorsement deals with feel he embodies those attributes. I don't think it has anything to do with the fact he's caucasian.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:25 PM   #113
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Wait a second... Lebron, Kobe, Tiger, Mandela... perhaps it is a disadvantage being Caucasian?

I know that I might not get a mod position on this site because I am not an Asian girl, so being a Caucasian male does have its downsides.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:14 PM   #114
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Well I just think if Nadal had 16 slams (or even if he surpassed the record), I doubt he would make more than Federer's total fortune. I'm sure he would make a lot regardless, but I just don't see him making nearly as much as Federer. Federer's success comes from his records as well as the Swiss identity which is associated with luxury. But all I'm saying is opportunities can come from cultural background and appearance as well. In the case of Federer, this is a small case (most come from his records and association with Switzerland). But in the case of Sharapova, it's a huge one.

Sharapova isn't born American, but not only does she make more than Serena Williams in cosmetics, modeling, etc. She also is surpassing those two sisters in gear and equipment as well (take a look at her lucrative contract with Nike). She signed an 8 year 70 million contract with them in 2010. The previous year she won 0 slams while Serena had won 2 slams. Ironic, isn't it?

So in the case of Williams/Sharapova it's a lot extreme.

So yeah, if Nadal did become the GOAT, I think racist and prejudice stereotypes about Spanish people would come to play in his earnings when it comes to international endorsers and promoters. Federer's reputation would have also been affected somewhat if he was born German or Austrian. Given that these were not associated with "neutral countries" the quality and quantity of endorsements and promotions could have varied.
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Well I just think if Nadal had 16 slams (or even if he surpassed the record), I doubt he would make more than Federer's total fortune. I'm sure he would make a lot regardless, but I just don't see him making nearly as much as Federer. Federer's success comes from his records as well as the Swiss identity which is associated with luxury. But all I'm saying is opportunities can come from cultural background and appearance as well. In the case of Federer, this is a small case (most come from his records and association with Switzerland). But in the case of Sharapova, it's a huge one.
Well that won't happen, so why discuss it? I associate Switzerland with army knives, cows, mountains, skiers, chocolate and banks. Not really with luxury.



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Sharapova isn't born American, but not only does she make more than Serena Williams in cosmetics, modeling, etc. She also is surpassing those two sisters in gear and equipment as well (take a look at her lucrative contract with Nike). She signed an 8 year 70 million contract with them in 2010. The previous year she won 0 slams while Serena had won 2 slams. Ironic, isn't it?

So in the case of Williams/Sharapova it's a lot extreme.
Williams is ugly, is on tour part time and has a bad temper. Pova is good looking when seen from a distance and is a real pro: working hard day in day out on court and off.

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So yeah, if Nadal did become the GOAT, I think racist and prejudice stereotypes about Spanish people would come to play in his earnings when it comes to international endorsers and promoters. Federer's reputation would have also been affected somewhat if he was born German or Austrian. Given that these were not associated with "neutral countries" the quality and quantity of endorsements and promotions could have varied.
Come on... Rafa is not Mexican for God's sake.
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There are exceptions of course. Nole is getting endorsements despite his equine facial features.


I don't know where Venus ranks on the list of highest paid female athletes, but I know that despite her lesser success (when compared to Serena) she has a lot of sponsorship deals here in the US.
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so we have to put him in a position where we think he can help us, but does he have time to get in shape and in sync with the rest of his new team-mates?
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I wonder how much Federer makes alone from the country of Switzerland. Watches, knives, Swiss Air, cheese, milk, chocolate, skiing, hotel and resort ads, bank ads perhaps. The perfect country for endorsements.
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I wonder how much Federer makes alone from the country of Switzerland. Watches, knives, Swiss Air, cheese, milk, chocolate, skiing, hotel and resort ads, bank ads perhaps. The perfect country for endorsements.



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