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misty1 · 02-02-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowwy

That's retarded.

Milos, Frank, Peter, Vasek, Bester.

In that order, if Milos gets into the MD.

first of all i dont appreciate you using that word. It pisses me off alot when i see or here it because of ..well reasons that you dont need to know

second i sturggle to see why vasek deserves a wild card before bester or even chovjka,.

thirdly thank you sokk

knew i wasnt the only one who questioned peter getting a wild card

***Snowwy*** · 02-02-2011, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misty1

first of all i dont appreciate you using that word. It pisses me off alot when i see or here it because of ..well reasons that you dont need to know

second i sturggle to see why vasek deserves a wild card before bester or even chovjka,.

thirdly thank you sokk

knew i wasnt the only one who questioned peter getting a wild card

First off, sorry about the word.

Second, can you justify Erik getting a WC over Peter? I'd LOVE to see that. This should be good. sokk, you're welcome to try also.

GasquetGulbis · 02-02-2011, 05:35 PM

They should do a wildcard tournament. Frank gets one for sure, and then the two finalist of the tournament get the other ones.

1. Peter
--------------------Polansky
8. Krainik
----------------------------------------Chvojka
4. Chvojka
--------------------Chvojka
5. Duclos

6. Diez
--------------------Pospisil
3. Pospisil
----------------------------------------Pospisil
7. Klingemann
--------------------Bester
2. Bester

Obviously Chvojka's not going to do that well, but I can always hope.

And then the other 6 can have qualifying WC's

***Snowwy*** · 02-02-2011, 05:47 PM

I could see Bester over Vasek.

Bester: 270 (career high: 270)
Vasek: 320 (career high: 270)

Bester: 22 years old
Vasek: 20 years old

Futures Record

Bester: 92 - 61 (4 titles)
Vasek: 90 - 37 (8 titles)

Challengers Record

Bester: 9 - 23
Vasek: 4 - 20

I think this year will have a big effect on which one gets in, but I think they both will because odds are pretty good that either Frank is hurt or Milos gets a DE.

FormerRafaFan · 02-02-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowwy

First off, sorry about the word.

Second, can you justify Erik getting a WC over Peter? I'd LOVE to see that. This should be good. sokk, you're welcome to try also.

Lets see her, Erik has done more lately than Peter, lets start with that maybe? He's been more consistent, even if it is at a lower level.

FormerRafaFan · 02-02-2011, 05:53 PM

BTW, since Rogers Cup is in Montreal this year.. do you think they will choose Pierre-Ludovic Duclos? Since he's from Quebec and everything. I know how nationalistic the Quebec people are.

156mphserve · 02-02-2011, 06:11 PM

We heard this same crap last year saying Peter should have to qualify. Give him the WC IMO, he's done way more than Vasek/Bester/Erik has ever done, sure maybe he's incosistent, but the chances that an incosistent player will get a win are better than the chances that Erik will get a win, sure Erik is consistent in beating the players he should beat but he's not going to up his level enough to beat a top 50 player, while although Peter may have his off days, when he is on he can beat a top 50 play and has done it before.

AS for other WC's don't we get 4 to give out? If Milos gets DE(which is far from certain at this point GG) then I'd give them to Frank, Peter, Bester, and probably Vasek. If Milos doesn't get DE then I'd drop Vasek off of that list

Blarghman · 02-02-2011, 06:38 PM

Milos, Frank and Peter should have nailed-on wildcards. They are clearly the three best singles players we have, and given they will probably be the Davis Cup team, it's pretty elementary. Bester and Vasek are more even, Vasek is younger, and if the two are still similar in August, Vasek should get the nod. Barring injuries or some unforseen results, I don't think anyone outside of those five should really be in the running.

Blarghman · 02-02-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sokk

Lets see her, Erik has done more lately than Peter, lets start with that maybe? He's been more consistent, even if it is at a lower level.

Erik has done more lately?

He won one challenger match this week. The last MD match he won above futures level was at Rimouski in March. Peter has qualified for a GS, won two DC singles matches for Tennis Canada and beat a top 20 player in that time frame. Sure, Peter has been inconsistent and disappointing, but there's definitely some people here overreacting.

GasquetGulbis · 02-02-2011, 06:44 PM

Raonic is warming up now, and there's a livestream with commentators http://www.justin.tv/bumelant44#/w/823547760

***Snowwy*** · 02-02-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sokk

Lets see her, Erik has done more lately than Peter, lets start with that maybe? He's been more consistent, even if it is at a lower level.

:retard:

Age

Peter: 22 years old
Erik: 24 years old

Ranking

Peter: 203 (career high: 164)
Erik: 424 (career high: 343)

Davis Cup

Peter: 7 - 3
Erik: 0 - 0 (Never represented Canada)

Grand Slams

Peter: Qualified four times (1 - 4)
Erik: Never in the qualifying draw (0 - 0)

ATP

Peter: 10 - 14 (Beating Melzer and Monaco)
Erik: 0 - 0

Challengers

Peter: 56 - 59
Erik: 9 - 13

Futures

Peter: 48 - 20 (5 titles)
Erik: 70 - 62 (4 titles)

Peter is better in every way, its not even close in even one aspect and Peter is 2 years younger.

FormerRafaFan · 02-02-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowwy

:retard:

Age

Peter: 22 years old
Erik: 24 years old

Ranking

Peter: 203 (career high: 164)
Erik: 424 (career high: 343)

Davis Cup

Peter: 7 - 3
Erik: 0 - 0 (Never represented Canada)

Grand Slams

Peter: Qualified four times (1 - 4)
Erik: Never in the qualifying draw (0 - 0)

ATP

Peter: 10 - 14 (Beating Melzer and Monaco)
Erik: 0 - 0

Challengers

Peter: 56 - 59
Erik: 9 - 13

Futures

Peter: 48 - 20 (5 titles)
Erik: 70 - 62 (4 titles)

Peter is better in every way, its not even close in even one aspect and Peter is 2 years younger.

Did you even read what I wrote?

Erik has done better LATELY while Peter has been very disappointing, not winning many matches, and certainly not winning the matches he should be winning. I think Erik has been more consistent even if it is, like I said again, at a lower level.

I do know that Peter in general is a better player, but he has been sooo disappointing lately. My god, he is not playing up to his potential at all! It would be nice to, well, maybe not as a punishment per se, but yeah, make him work for it. Considering how disappointing he is these days.

misty1 · 02-02-2011, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowwy

First off, sorry about the word.

Second, can you justify Erik getting a WC over Peter? I'd LOVE to see that. This should be good. sokk, you're welcome to try also.

maybe i cant justify giving it to him over peter but i sure as hell can over vasek

if erik and philip continue to get some good results and vasek and peter continue to flounder around i could see these wild cards ig milos is in the main draw:

frank
erik
philip
peirre
peter

if milos is not in the draw:

milos
frank
erik
philip
pierre

peirre just because its in montreal this year

***Snowwy*** · 02-02-2011, 08:09 PM

Erik over Peter is stupid, there is no reason you can say that.

sokk:Peter, in a bad year won has way more points with "his terrible results" than Erik has "being consistant"

2011 Points

Peter: 23 Points
Erik: 7 points

You guys have no argument.

***Snowwy*** · 02-02-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by misty1

maybe i cant justify giving it to him over peter but i sure as hell can over vasek

Go!

As for PLD, he was twice as good in 2009 and still got qualifying WC in Montreal. Lost 2 and 2. Why would it be any different now that PLD is half the player he was then?