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Old 01-19-2011, 02:15 PM   #106
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This AO reminds me of AO 2008. Than Andy was playing super passively again, and the first in-form player took him out (Kohlshreiber).

It is not that he lost to Soderling, it is the way he lost. He was completley destroyed. To just push the ball back in play in not enough against top players. And I don't think Andy in 250 event final is something to really cheer about. Well, c'mon, this is a normal thing. And he is way better than that. If he was not, me and other fans here would have not been so frustrated by his performances.
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I would classify that as a shit win.
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While the match was utter garbage, lucky is not the word in the first set...he was hitting his forehand much better and more aggresively in the third set. He just seemed flat from the get go and then the sun came out and he seemed to pick up momentum. As a side note..Kunitsyn took Andy to 4 sets at Wimbledon in the second round in 2009 and we all know what went on to happen there.

What pisses me off is that he knows what he needs to do to play agressively and he CAN do it when he wants to he's just cool with coasting along which does not make any sense because it doesn't jive with his work ethic.

Regarding Roger...of course he was going to sneek it out in the 5th. But this is exactly what happened at Wimbledon just a round later and he ended up going out in the QF soooo....Andy meets him in the QF and takes him out preserving his "every odd year at the AO making it to the semis streak!"
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This AO reminds me of AO 2008. Than Andy was playing super passively again, and the first in-form player took him out (Kohlshreiber).
I had the same thoughts. Last night's match reminded me of Andy's match with Berrer in the AO 2008.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:29 AM   #110
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Martina N is talking about Jankovic and how she's standing too far back and is playing too passively. To quote her she said that that kind of play "wins matches, but not slams." I think the exact thing applies to andy. sure, andymo, we can rejoice in every match andy wins. but Andy himself has made it inordinately clear he is not still on the tour just to win matches. he wants to win slams. he is NOT going to win a slam playing like this, I think that that's entirely clear and really not arguable at this point. If you really think Andy can win a slam playing this way I'm not sure what to tell you. But I would certainly like to see the evidence you have to back that up.
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Martina N is talking about Jankovic and how she's standing too far back and is playing too passively. To quote her she said that that kind of play "wins matches, but not slams." I think the exact thing applies to andy. sure, andymo, we can rejoice in every match andy wins. but Andy himself has made it inordinately clear he is not still on the tour just to win matches. he wants to win slams. he is NOT going to win a slam playing like this, I think that that's entirely clear and really not arguable at this point. If you really think Andy can win a slam playing this way I'm not sure what to tell you. But I would certainly like to see the evidence you have to back that up.
Andy plays exactly like Jankovic, except he has the serve to back him up. You see where she is right now.
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Andy plays exactly like Jankovic, except he has the serve to back him up. You see where she is right now.
Yep, the fact that Kunitsyn was hitting literally double the groundstroke winners to Andy says quite a lot. What's funny is that one of the reasons Jelena is having so much trouble right now is because she's trying to be more aggressive.

A few tennis writer/tweeters are saying Haase has a really good chance to beat Andy today. Wish I could disagree with them.
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Well, Haase is a good player. He is shotmaker and gave Nadal lots of trouble at Wimbledon. If he has a good day, Andy is in trouble.

Well, in the first part of 2006 Andy was actually agressive, I mean he was hitting more groundstroke winners. Or he was trying to...
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Haase is a really good player who has just had bad luck with injuries. Andy needs to be on high alert.
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Yeah, I'm seeing/fearing Kohlschreiber all over again. Someone hold me.


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Yay happy to be wrong, sorry I didn't see any of the match.
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Haase turned his ankle in like the 2nd game of the match and started swinging for the fences and most of them went in, including a couple of truly ridiculous shots that left andy going . Andy was passive as usual, usually on top of the MELBOURNE thing on the court. Haase hit 2 DFs in the TB to throw it again and then andy could take control as Haase started having more physical problems and was clearly tiring.

It was good of Andy to keep trying and he did start playing better as the match went on, but I think he's lucky haase was hurt. he won't get much further in the tournament if he keeps going this way. Even his DAD wrote him an email that he was being too far back.
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I wonder, because he plays like this like...every match, is this what he and Larry are talking. I'm starting to think this way.
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i'm kind of glad i didn't see most of that match, i like how andy came back and eventually won (even though haase's injury played a decent part in it), but i watched most of the first set (close to the end of it) and i was just smh, even if it was just lucky shotmaking -- i was so happy to switch channels and watch the new bones instead.

i'm crossing my fingers for andy to at least get to roger, but i won't be surprised at all if stan takes him out.
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Will the real Andy Roddick please stand-up?
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