[Bibberz]

Originally Posted by scoobs

bibcry, your flashing gifs make me want to find a reason to ban you for a few days

That is flashing a bit fast. I'll slow down the animation.

[Minn]

Originally Posted by Castafiore

Since nobody gives a damn:
*starts discussion with self*
Me: Belgium lost? What happened?
Myself: Yes, 2-4 and they had to temporarily stop the match so that the police could drag the Bosnian fans into a seperate section
I: Do we still have a chance to qualify?
Me: We need a miracle
Myself: And a new coach who is less stubborn.
I: Our coach showing Federer traits when he said "Belgium played well, we could have won". Yeah, and Federer could have won the Australian Open in straight sets as well.

Originally Posted by scoobs

bibcry, your flashing gifs make me want to find a reason to ban you for a few days

Poor BD. I like that he changes his avatar and sig so often. Mike changes his avatar a lot too. I tend to stick with the same avatar for a long time. I was really glad a few months ago that I couldn't see George's blond mullet guy at work.

[Action Jackson]

Originally Posted by Castafiore

They're suspecting trouble for the upcoming match against Turkey and since we have quite a few people from Turkish origin, they're trying to keep fan bases seperate with desperate measures.

People buying a ticket here will have to give an oath that they will be supporting for Belgium (and they will keep records of it in case of trouble).
That plan has been ridiculed quite a bit here.

I mean they should be able to tell on the names of the people buying the tickets that they are Turkish, Moroccan or Bosnian, but the problem is that the away sections only get a certain amount of tickets. Not sure if these fans can get them from the away federations, they need extra security for dangerous games.

It depends on whether they have the CCTV or ID checks on these people or not, it only takes a few.

[wildegirl05]

Originally Posted by scoobs

I've never said Muzza isn't a pusher - he does push when he thinks the tactics require it. I've never said pushing is wrong either. The object is to win the match and to play the way that best assures that result. If that's pushing, fine, if it's moonballing, fine, if it's bashing, fine, if it's serve-volleying, fine, if it's bombing down aces, fine, if it's ballet tennis, fine.

Whatever works.

Some styles appeal to me less than others but the idea that there is such a thing as a "right way to play tennis" is proper bullshit.

i agree with this. and i don't think anyone's tennis style can be reduced to one feature, useful as it is to hate on a player

however, what i disagree with is fans who think their opinions are so valid that they spend all day criticising top players for their playing styles, interviews, dress, on/off court behavior etc. maybe, just maybe, top players have earned some right to analyze and criticize their peers in a way that's more valid than armchair analysis. i'm not saying armchair analysis by the casual fan has no place in sport (power to the people and agency to fans) but it's laughable when they place themselves above players. to me.

[Action Jackson]

Originally Posted by acionescu

Hilde The Serbian fans destroyed our stadium too

Remember the famous match with Red Star and Dynamo Zagreb, which not long after had the war in that part of the world? There was some crowd trouble and the Serb police were beating up Croat fans and then Boban kicked the copper.

Huge riot.

Serbs and Romanians I thought got along quite well and I am not refering to the legend of Belodedici.

[wildegirl05]

Originally Posted by scoobs

Yep he has - he just gets so many more chances to air the period cramps side of his personality now.

it would be useful to go back and collect quotes where he's GASP, SHOCK AND HORROR praised his peers but why let the facts get in the way of a good theory

i'll just wait to see how you guys react when muzza starts spouting off more bs like the serve stats interview recently

[scoobs]

Originally Posted by wildegirl05

i agree with this. and i don't think anyone's tennis style can be reduced to one feature, useful as it is to hate on a player

however, what i disagree with is fans who think their opinions are so valid that they spend all day criticising top players for their playing styles, interviews, dress, on/off court behavior etc. maybe, just maybe, top players have earned some right to analyze and criticize their peers in a way that's more valid than armchair analysis. i'm not saying armchair analysis by the casual fan has no place in sport (power to the people and agency to fans) but it's laughable when they place themselves above players. to me.

True, but equally it's silly to place players' opinions over those of fans too - players might have more actual tennis know-how, but then again it's also personal for them, too - they're in the situation, they're not going to be very objective about things, it's going to be how this or that impacts them. It's hard for them to take themselves out of the situation and see it impersonally.

[Corey Feldman]

Whitler do you think Stan will beat Andreev today ?

[wildegirl05]

i always slip between british and american spellings, in the same damn paragraph and sometimes even in the same sentence my poor brain

[Castafiore]

Originally Posted by wildegirl05

it would be useful to go back and collect quotes where he's GASP, SHOCK AND HORROR praised his peers but why let the facts get in the way of a good theory

Sure, like praising Gasquet after crushing him.

We mentioned that.

[scoobs]

Originally Posted by wildegirl05

it would be useful to go back and collect quotes where he's GASP, SHOCK AND HORROR praised his peers but why let the facts get in the way of a good theory

i'll just wait to see how you guys react when muzza starts spouting off more bs like the serve stats interview recently

What? He does praise a lot of his peers too. This is not in dispute. Sometimes he even does it without a backhanded putdown. His backhands in the pressroom are much better than those on the court lately.

I'm sure you'll have fun for many years yet pulling Muzza's interview to pieces and I wouldn't dream of denying you this

[Saumon]

Originally Posted by MariaV

And Gab, did you notice GWH never got back to us to tell about the 3 serious Safin fans. I'm desperate. Way more hysterical than last night.

Of course I did. But what else can you expect from Georgie? That's so typical of him.

Originally Posted by Action Jackson

Maria, this is your answer Tupu, Hupu and Lupu.

I didn't know that Riri, Fifi and Loulou were Safinettes. What are their MTF usernames?

[wildegirl05]

Originally Posted by scoobs

True, but equally it's silly to place players' opinions over those of fans too - players might have more actual tennis know-how, but then again it's also personal for them, too - they're in the situation, they're not going to be very objective about things, it's going to be how this or that impacts them. It's hard for them to take themselves out of the situation and see it impersonally.

i'm pretty sure fans, as a whole, are not known for their objective and impersonal analysis much as they would like to believe it of themselves.

that rational individual that economists are always talking about is not omnipresent amongst sports fans.

[scoobs]

Originally Posted by wildegirl05

i'm pretty sure fans, as a whole, are not known for their objective and impersonal analysis much as they would like to believe it of themselves.

that rational individual that economists are always talking about is not omnipresent amongst sports fans.

Well I'm not talking about all fans, that's for sure

Some of them should be denied access to a keyboard, writing implement or any form of communication.

[Corey Feldman]

ridiculous stuff by ... someone in here

thing is, there is no bigger Fedtard than MURRAY HIMSELF

ffs