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Old 08-22-2010, 03:39 PM   #46
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Wasn't it Todd Martin who fucked up his serve?
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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Thought so. One of the worst coaching screw-ups of all time. Did the same thing happen to Coria?
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two things.......

1. change the racket back to wilson and
2. hire a fulltime doctor to travel with him and find a solution to his stamina worries......he no more seems to be able to play winning tennis when playing under sun.......
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Well the motivation from the player's box is sometimes depressing, but he is a good coach, you can't deny it. Novak hasn't been playing bad tennis. I think he has been legitimately unlucky at some stages, but I mean QF at the Australian Open, QF at the French Open, and SF at Wimbledon are not poor results now. The fact that he should of won both his QF matches means he is still doing something right, but maybe mentally he should change a little bit, and that only comes with winning matches, patience and time.

Maybe Novak should get his parents back in the box to behave rudely towards his opponents? Or maybe he should go back to being a big joker like he was in 2007? I might sound silly, but seriously, if you feel like you used to play tennis better in the past, wouldn't you try to emulate some of the factors that were involved previously? It wouldn't hurt. I mean him being such a joker or have his parents being rude in the box could have relaxed him as a player and allowed him to hit more freely.
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I like Vajda a lot.
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As some said before, he needs to get his arrogance/cockiness back.
I agree with this. Early when he got into top 5 Federer used to dislike playing him and always had fits of trouble. But then for some reason Novak decided he wanted to be more loved by Federer and Rafa. Not a good decision for his career. He used to be very intimidating to everyone, even the top guys.
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I agree with this. Early when he got into top 5 Federer used to dislike playing him and always had fits of trouble. But then for some reason Novak decided he wanted to be more loved by Federer and Rafa. Not a good decision for his career. He used to be very intimidating to everyone, even the top guys.
i think he just lacks confidence these days.......he was just immature when he was young.......stamina worries are also adding up to the miseries.......when was the last time he beat a big player playing under the afternoon sun?

changing the racket back to wilson should be his first step......had enough with this head racket which doesn't seem to give him the right stroke dynamics......look at his forehand, awful......changing the coach wouldn't be a good decision because the problem is not with the coach.......
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unfortunate mr djokovic. most likely he has a condition, an inability to perform in certain conditions, like heat, moist... did it happen out of a blue sky, or did it pan out somehow, is hard to say.
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that's right, he definitely has a condition.......i have been watching this guy since 2006 and he gets exhausted quickly in heat......he even threw night matches to players like santoro in 2007 out of exhaustion.......since 2009 his resistance to heat started declining rapidly and he can hardly win a tennis match these days when playing on a hot sunny day.......

i posted some 3 months ago that his game has taken a hit mainly due to this reason and i still stand by it.......when you know that you cannot survive even for 3 sets in sun, how can you even think of winning 7 matches in a slam?

second thing is the racket.......this present head racket just keeps giving more headaches.......i don't know if there's something wrong with the strings but he keeps jabbing at those forehands.......has no control on that shot these days for some reason.......
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that part looks to me to be more mental, cause we've seen him play excellent tennis mostly last year. also he still plays on an averagely high level given he is/was no 2. maybe it a bit harder to get in the groove with this head racket, but look how he went out of slams, in a more or less listless endings drained in the sun..

to me it looks that condition is triggered both mentally and due to conditions. I wouldnt bet he has it alone in tennis, let alone all of sports. also it appears it can be controlled to a level.

So a change in environment would be good, with Vajda going on leave and importing some high profile coach who could handle novaks case.
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he also needs to open a new facebook account
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exactly. maybe hes been trying to but doesnt know how.
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And the US Open incident with Roddick, we all know what happened after that, Nole has become soft, he is passive and I do not feel that his game has improved in any way at all, if anything, his game has regressed, his forehand sucks these days, and his serve is nothing compared to what it used to be...oh Nole
For me this was the real turning point in his career. Somehow after this incident he lost some joy in the game and with it his attitude and determination. It was a very nasty incident which I hate Roddick for and one of the lowest moments in Nole's career. He completely changed his behavior and attitude after that. He went "soft".
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Sorry to break to you but Novak is a great player but not an outstanding talented one to the likes of Federer or Nadal level or any other outstanding multi slam champion for that matter. I would even put Nalbandian as slightly more talented and he hasn`t won a GS slam yet.

Djokovic is a great top player, he has a very well rounded consistent game, great FH a solid and steady backhand a nice serve and descent volley skills and mental. Having said that he doesn`t possess anything outstanding in his arsenal neither technically or mentally. When he gets hot mentally he can have great results, I remeber I think just last year where he was one of the players that most pushed Nadal on clay specially that endless final in Hamburg I belive, which could have lead to Nadal eventual tireness, physycal issues and loss to Soderling. Slam finals, I am not sure how many MS 1000 he has one but I think a few...etc..

But in the end is just that. Djokovic is a great top player, but he will not beat a Federer playing really well on any surface nor Nadal for that matter maybe aside from fast HC. He is also the type of player that can lose to several other good top players on any given day. So is just that, he is quite similar to Andy Murray, having achivied more than him yet as far as GS and on clay as well. I think as a Nole fan you can`t complain too much, I think he could problably achievied maybe another slam and a few MS 100, but either way he is career is going just fine in accordance to his game. Specially when you consider that guys like Nalbandian, Haas, Murray that has won as big yet....

I also think he is similar to Delpo in the sense that the Argentine won it big and young, but he doesn`t really have that talent or expectations of winnning GS left and right. And I think most people would not be surprised if he won just that US open, for example. Given that he is great top player,but not also an outstanding player technically or mentally.
Awesome write-up, but I think you're wrong about his talent level. As for Nalbandian being ahead of him in that department, I'll still give you that. Not only is Nalbandian naturally talented, but he has a really great tactical mind which is a whole different type of talent in and of itself. But when Nole was really at his best (in the days of the Big Three/Four), his elasticity and flexibility made him one of the best shot-makers on tour. Federer, Nadal, and Nole had probably the most consistent passing shots on tour, and that's no coincidence because they are all flexible and athletic enough to hit any shot from any position. Even looking at the tour now, and how much the game has evolved, there are very few players (maybe Monfils) with Nole's athletic talents.

No, I think where Djokovic went wrong was entirely mental. As others have said, when he lost that youthful cockiness, that fearless shotmaking, and began to mature, his game has suffered for it.
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Djokovic needs some development on the volley and the slice.

From the groundstrokes he is fine when he is playing well, but all of the top contenders can play groundstrokes. It is just not enough.
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