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Old 07-01-2010, 05:27 PM   #31
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Thanks for pointing out the obvious. See you in 4 years.

You don't need a thread for this.
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:30 PM   #32
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Federer will fall, Nadal will fall, Murray,Nole,Soderling should retire, Davydenko and del Potro won't come back after injuries
and Oscar Hernandez will become world no.1
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:53 PM   #33
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These kind of threads are mindblowingly stupid.
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Thanks for pointing out the obvious. See you in 4 years.

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These kind of threads are mindblowingly stupid.
i dont like these retarded threads any more than you do. if i had my way everko's original fail thread would have been crushed by the mods at first site, but it was allowed to continue. therefore it would be double standards if this thread is quashed. it must be allowed to run its course.

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Federer will fall, Nadal will fall, Murray,Nole,Soderling should retire, Davydenko and del Potro won't come back after injuries
and Oscar Hernandez will become world no.1
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well said old sport. its a colossal failure to say the least.
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:02 PM   #35
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What a pointless thread. EVERY sportsperson 'falls' eventually, as sure as night follows day.

But at this time last year many Nadal haters were rubbing their hands together in the anticipation that Nadal was almost finished right then.

Yet 12 months later, he has won more matches and titles than anyone this year, and has regained the number 1 spot having fallen to 3 a few weeks earlier. (So there is still hope for Federer fans!)

I'm sure if he wins a couple more majors in the next few years, he won't be too disappointed when his knees finally crumble, going down as one of the best players in the history of the game - regardless of whatever you think of his style of play.
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i dont like these retarded threads any more than you do. if i had my way everko's original fail thread would have been crushed by the mods at first site, but it was allowed to continue. therefore it would be double standards if this thread is quashed. it must be allowed to run its course.
Agreed, but why would you want to bring yourself down to the level of Everko?
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Agreed, but why would you want to bring yourself down to the level of Everko?
if you are talking about the OP i couldnt agree more with your old sport. even though i hate everko's thread i would never stoop so low as to start a thread to counter it. i would never sink myself to the level where sewer rats dwell.
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Nadal will win two slams per year until he is 29. When you add that to the 8 he'll have by sunday sunset - that's 16.
Unlikely, but still could you imagine how much that would piss off Federer fans? They'd never accept it.

EDIT: Sorry, I should specify not all Federer fans, but the ones who hate Nadal.
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Your point is based on wild speculation, so I feel free to speculate as well.

1) If Nadal had to retire at 28 he would had remained 11 years as an elite tennis player. He could feel very well satisfied, with or without knee issues.

2) At the age of 22 Nadal had already accomplished everything that can be accomplished in men's professional tennis: several slams on 3 different surfaces, a bunch of M1000, several Davis Cups, Olympics Gold in singles and world #1.

3) Apart from that, he will always be remembered as Federer's nemesis, the one that prevented him to increase his legacy, the one that won 2/3 matches against him, the one that defeated him in 3/4 slam finals (including surfaces like hard and grass where Federer is considerered one of the greatest ever to play on them). He will always be remembered as the dominator between the two in his rivalry against probably the best player to ever play the game.

4) He is not the pigeon of any other player, and he has not a differential of -2 in his H2H against any other player. He is probably one of the toughest players to beat ever and probably the best ever at the mental department. His defense and movement while fit and healthy is also unparalleled. He also has the best records while playing 5-setters.

5) That facts alone are impressive, but he also possesses the best records, stats and streaks ever achieved on clay. He is an extremely great player overall but has also mastered to near perfection his game on clay (he is considered the best ever on the surface by many).

Now let's speculate:

6) If Nadal wins another Wimbledon (quite likely to happen this year), 1 USO and two more RG he'd have 11 Slams, including 7 RG (the absolute clay GOAT forever), 2 Wimbledons, 1 AO and 1 USO. That means he would complete the Career Golden Slam including at least a couple of slams on every surface. Has any other player of the Open Era ever achieved it? Not even Federer.

7) If Nadal wins two more M1000 he would have 20. None of the current pro players are going to win more than 10-12 (at their very best) overall.

I don't need him to be considered the GOAT (and he won't) and I'm perfectly fine with his current career (it's TOP-10 right now), but if he manages to win 1 Wimbly (this year he has a very good chance), 1 USO (I have the feeling he'll have a shot this year or in 2011), 2 RG (HEAVY, and I mean HEAVY favourite) and 2 M1000 (quite likely to happen in 2010) then he'd have one of the best overall careers including the Golden Slam (not to forget he achieved the Olympic Gold on a fast hardcourt) with 2+ of slams on every surface (one-dimensional dirt moonballer, anyone?), 20 M1000, at least 3 Davis Cups, clayGOAT status for ages and the edge of the rivalry between him and Federer.

PS. Federer is great and 16>7. I'm just pointing that Nadal has nothing left to prove in tennis and he could well retire today and be remembered as a legend in the game (the same goes for Federer, obviously).
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Nadal will fall when he has 70 tournaments won, not more GS than Federer though.
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i will bump this thread in 5 years. no less
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Your point is based on wild speculation, so I feel free to speculate as well.

1) If Nadal had to retire at 28 he would had remained 11 years as an elite tennis player. He could feel very well satisfied, with or without knee issues.

2) At the age of 22 Nadal had already accomplished everything that can be accomplished in men's professional tennis: several slams on 3 different surfaces, a bunch of M1000, several Davis Cups, Olympics Gold in singles and world #1.

3) Apart from that, he will always be remembered as Federer's nemesis, the one that prevented him to increase his legacy, the one that won 2/3 matches against him, the one that defeated him in 3/4 slam finals (including surfaces like hard and grass where Federer is considerered one of the greatest ever to play on them). He will always be remembered as the dominator between the two in his rivalry against probably the best player to ever play the game.

4) He is not the pigeon of any other player, and he has not a differential of -2 in his H2H against any other player. He is probably one of the toughest players to beat ever and probably the best ever at the mental department. His defense and movement while fit and healthy is also unparalleled. He also has the best records while playing 5-setters.

5) That facts alone are impressive, but he also possesses the best records, stats and streaks ever achieved on clay. He is an extremely great player overall but has also mastered to near perfection his game on clay (he is considered the best ever on the surface by many).

Now let's speculate:

6) If Nadal wins another Wimbledon (quite likely to happen this year), 1 USO and two more RG he'd have 11 Slams, including 7 RG (the absolute clay GOAT forever), 2 Wimbledons, 1 AO and 1 USO. That means he would complete the Career Golden Slam including at least a couple of slams on every surface. Has any other player of the Open Era ever achieved it? Not even Federer.

7) If Nadal wins two more M1000 he would have 20. None of the current pro players are going to win more than 10-12 (at their very best) overall.

I don't need him to be considered the GOAT (and he won't) and I'm perfectly fine with his current career (it's TOP-10 right now), but if he manages to win 1 Wimbly (this year he has a very good chance), 1 USO (I have the feeling he'll have a shot this year or in 2011), 2 RG (HEAVY, and I mean HEAVY favourite) and 2 M1000 (quite likely to happen in 2010) then he'd have one of the best overall careers including the Golden Slam (not to forget he achieved the Olympic Gold on a fast hardcourt) with 2+ of slams on every surface (one-dimensional dirt moonballer, anyone?), 20 M1000, at least 3 Davis Cups, clayGOAT status for ages and the edge of the rivalry between him and Federer.

PS. Federer is great and 16>7. I'm just pointing that Nadal has nothing left to prove in tennis and he could well retire today and be remembered as a legend in the game (the same goes for Federer, obviously).
great analysis

btw. every player is finally gonna fall (read: retire) = this thread is stupid !
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nadal will fall surely.....to the ground on his back like he always does when he wins a slam this sunday.
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everko's thread was funny, this is a cheap copy.

and yes, rafa will fall.
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Agreed. Nadal needs to quit hard court altogther. Otherwise his knee will be done.
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