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Old 09-10-2004, 10:25 AM   #1
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Default Is Gilbert holding Roddick back?

With this QF loss to Joachim Johansson -- who not only defeated Roddick, but defeated him at his own game in front of Roddick's home crowd -- what is the next step for Andy Roddick?

Drafting a gameplan to combat Roger Federer isn't necessarily needed
(Federer has denied Roddick only two tournaments this year: Wimbledon and
Toronto). Roddick is losing to players other than Federer, as evidenced by
his inability to justify his seeding at the majors (the only successful
occurrence being a final at Wimbledon as the No. 2 seed). He also has failed
to develop any significant win-streaks, as he did last summer.

Roddick's power game is devastating, but on days when he's off (between
Melbourne and Miami), or his power is nullified (as on clay), or on the rare
occasion when he is overpowered (Safin in Melbourne, Johansson at Flushing
Meadows, Federer at Wimbledon (outfinessed), Gonzalez at olympics), Roddick has no plan B on which to fall back on. And Roddick's game is noticeably tactics-deficient, as he instead plays on raw instinct and nothing else.

Is it time for Roddick and Gilbert to modify Andy's approach to the game?
Develop tactics against certain styles of play that don't necessarily rely
solely upon power? Is it possible for Roddick to even do so?

Or has Andy gotten themost he could from chatter box who seems to be a good motivator but a lousy coaching tactician.

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Old 09-10-2004, 10:27 AM   #2
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Default Re: Should Roddick get rid of Gilbert?

Did you call Brad Gilbert a lousy tactician????

And edit your original spelling of "lowsy"?

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Did you call Brad Gilbert a lousy tactician????
Coaching wise, yes. Gilbert's ability to get 200% out of his own game has created the perception that he is a great coach: he advocates
fitting your skills to the opponent's weaknesses - and in his own case,
since he had very few skills, that sometimes produced great results but I have seen both Agassi and Roddick make very average strategic decisions under him.
For example Roddick standing a huge distance behind the baseline while returning second serves.
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Old 09-10-2004, 10:57 AM   #4
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Coaching wise, yes. Gilbert's ability to get 200% out of his own game has created the perception that he is a great coach: he advocates
fitting your skills to the opponent's weaknesses - and in his own case,
since he had very few skills, that sometimes produced great results but I have seen both Agassi and Roddick make very average strategic decisions under him.
For example Roddick standing a huge distance behind the baseline while returning second serves.
Wyven, that doesn't have to be a tactical failing on his part. He can't play the match for his players, and they cannot always do what he wants them to.

But really, I don't think there's a better tactician than Brad. Whether Andy can soak it up is another thing.
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Old 09-10-2004, 11:40 AM   #5
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What makes you think Andy can do what you think he needs to do? Brad was crucial in Andy having such an amazing 2003.
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no

Thanks to Albert, Andy improved a lot and won the US open last year.
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Default Re: Is Gilbert holding Roddick back?

not too sure but I hate Brad, he is the main reason why I always cheer against Andy, he is like the worst of the worst cocky american
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Default Re: Is Gilbert holding Roddick back?

He has a fast serve, but he isn't as powerful as people think.
Forehand should have less topspin. Backhand should be more forceful.
His stomach & back aren't very strong.

He never had great coaching. That's why Roddick's insecure & hesitant to change.
He's not really dedicated. All he does are party with bimbos, drink beer, get fat, play & watch other sports. He was encouraged to act like macho basketball & baseball players.

Gilbert wants adulation for being narrow-minded.

He's an ugly pusher, so he selfishly enjoys ball bludgeoning.
There's nothing appealing about a poorly-placed world record serve, but he disagrees.

He thinks he knows a lot, yet he ignores effective tactics (angles, drop shops, lobs or flat serves).

It's useless to waste energy while bashing the ball, but he can't care less.
Telling kids to slam forehands at others' weak backhands doesn't mean they'll win.

He can't be a practice partner either.

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Default Re: Is Gilbert holding Roddick back?

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He has a fast serve, but he isn't as powerful as people think.
Forehand should have less topspin. Backhand should be more forceful.
His stomach & back aren't very strong.

He never had great coaching. That's why Roddick's insecure & hesitant to change.
He's not really dedicated. All he does is party with bimbos, drink beer, get fat, play & watch other sports. He was encouraged to act like macho basketball & baseball players.

Gilbert wants adulation for being narrow-minded.

He's an ugly pusher, so he selfishly enjoys ball bludgeoning.
There's nothing appealing about a poor-placed world record serve, but he disagrees.

He thinks he knows a lot, yet he ignores effective tactics (angles, drop shops, lobs or flat serves).

It's useless to waste energy while bashing the ball, but he can't care less.
Telling kids to slam forehands at others' weak backhands doesn't mean they'll win.

He can't be a practice partner either.
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Wyven, that doesn't have to be a tactical failing on his part. He can't play the match for his players, and they cannot always do what he wants them to.

But really, I don't think there's a better tactician than Brad. Whether Andy can soak it up is another thing.
Wilander is a better tactician than Gilbert, and he proved that when he was a player.

Obviously, he can't play the matches for his players, but Roddick does lack another plan when his normal game is not working, and that was the same for Agassi as well when Gilbert was coaching him.
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Keep "bitching," Fast-replying Troll Girl. You don't contribute as much as the other Nalbandian fans. What's your motive?

I make typos when I type fast at night. My 1st language isn't English & that's bad luck for you, Troll Girl.
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Keep "bitching," Fast-replying Troll Girl. You don't contribute as much as the other Nalbandian fans. What's your motive?

I make typos when I type fast at night. My 1st language isn't English & that's bad luck for you, Troll Girl.

Apparently, you hide out in Andy land, because I have more posts than most of the Nalby fans, as if your blind ass can't figure that out by now.
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Navratilova should coach Andy. She volleys way better than Gilbert
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Ooops! i voted for the wrong option...
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