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Old 02-07-2007, 01:56 PM   #1
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Hi all,

I don't know if I should discuss this topic in the DC section, but I read a post from a fan on another Roger site that I won't mention here, which kind of was a good point to raise, but it also kinda upset me. He was saying Roger should maybe be apart of DC more and not as is the case right now be in Dubai!

In a way he's right, but maybe Roger wants the team to have exposure on their own and to show their talents without him. That would give them more confidence too, perhaps? He'll be there when it's necessary..........

Sorry, I hope I've not started anything bad here? In a way I'm trying to defend Roger on this. DC is always going to be hard when you have a schedule like his and when his main focus is GS like it was for Pete Sampras who I loved too. Is it about the money? Dubai will pay Roger get prize money, right??

Your views please

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Old 02-07-2007, 02:29 PM   #2
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Roger's chasing History right now... And he's well aware that Switzerland currently cannot win the Davis Cup, with or without him. Stan is still improving, and hopefully he'll become a solid #2 within a couple of years. And then it would be the right time for Roger to commit and have a shot to the title.
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Roger is not go for it. Itsn't it ?
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I can understand Rogers decision to concentrate on the ATP tour. Tennis is an individual sport and he has a great chance to write history. He has shown in the last years how well his schedules work and that he knows best how much rest and preparation he needs.
I think we can only imagine which pressure he is carrying with him throughout the year and during a DC match a huge amount would depend on him as well.
Roger has always mentioned how much he enjoys it to play for his country and be together with his Swiss teammates and thats why he has played 41 DC matches already. He said that one of his biggest ambitions is to win the DC in his career and that he will concentrate on this aim later in his career.

I can't understand why some people find it so important for Roger to play the DC at the moment in order to prove anything. He has a high opinion on this event but of course the GS are his priority at this time of his career.
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:27 AM   #5
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Is it about the money? Dubai will pay Roger get prize money, right??
I think it's over-simplification to say he's skipping DC so he can play Dubai and make more money. I doubt that a player who has broken the record for prize earnings plans his schedule based on money.

When I'm right informed Roger has an apartment in Dubai because he is often there in order to train.

I don't see anything wrong in his decision to play in Dubai when he is there anyway.
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He is probably focusing really hard on Wimbly and RG this year. If he wins RG I think he will give DC a serious shot. Playing for history is hard, everyone will have opinions on what is most important for him to make his mark. I think his priorities should be RG-Wimbly-DC-hc slams in that order.
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I think it's over-simplification to say he's skipping DC so he can play Dubai and make more money. I doubt that a player who has broken the record for prize earnings plans his schedule based on money.

When I'm right informed Roger has an apartment in Dubai because he is often there in order to train.

I don't see anything wrong in his decision to play in Dubai when he is there anyway.
Roger took Doha and Rotterdam out of his schedule. I'm sure he got endorsement $$ there too. My guess is he kept Dubai because he has a home there and trains there.

As far as DC, everyone will have their opinions on how important it is. Yes right now there isn't much going on so Roger certainly could fit it in. But if Switzerland wins then they would play again right after Miami and I'm sure Roger's focus is preparing as much as possible for the clay court season this year.

When you know you're a contender for all the slams and most other tournaments your priorities change. Roger's one of the few players that knows he's a contender for the title every time he walks out on court. Prior to 2005 Roger never missed DC.

I think tennis is an individual sport and it's each players choice how much priority they give DC. Participation is not mandatory, so knocking a player for putting their own career over DC when they're breaking records left and right makes no sense to me.
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Roger of course need to choose his tour more than DC, because Swiss only have him is not enough.
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I think Roger is being very smart and showing great foresight in not playing in DC. I believe the primary reason, in Roger's mind, for not investing his efforts in DC is the unavoidable rationale that the Swiss cannot win at the moment, even with him on the team. Even if Roger delivers on both of his rubbers (as he almost unboubtedly can and will), the possibility of a 2-3 defeat will always loom large, especially if they are playing a perennial contender. I think everybody will more or less agree that Stan, Marco and Co., although very good players, cannot guarantee one of the other two singles rubbers and the doubles rubber (even with Roger playing) becomes very uncertain if they face a country with a doubles specialist team (e.g. the US).

I think Roger is being very pragmatic. It would be unwise of him to invest his time, energy and effort in DC just to lose 2-3 in the semis or even the final. I believe he is waiting for the setup around him to strengthen so that the team can give a fair go (he even mentioned something about this a few times). Note that he gives it his all to keep the Swiss in the World Group - he even played in the doubles rubber last year!

Additionally, I believe Roger knows that the Swiss fans and federation understand this. No one will deny that the Swiss are patriotic. But, I admire the fact that they are never "in your face" with it (sort of like us Canadians ). They will respect Roger's decision in the spirit that it is made. They know that there will come a time when he will give it his all to win the Cup and they know that circumstances are not quite there yet.
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Peacemaster, your're right but I think that's what bothers a lot of people (mostly non-fans). Especially Roger always playing to keep them in the world group. For me, I think you'll always have those who think DC is ultra important and anyone who doesn't participate is just selfish or it's a chink in their armour. And especially with the Roger haters, this is an excuse for them to say 'see he's not the ambassador for the game all his KAD fans think'. Personally I think if you enjoy DC it shouldn't matter if he plays or not. DC is not about Roger, and these same people bitching about him not playing I'm sure don't spend a lot of time watching his matches in other events.

It will be interesting to see what the Swiss do now with Wawrinka apparently out due to injury.
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It will be interesting to see what the Swiss do now with Wawrinka apparently out due to injury.
"interesting" may not be the right word it will be kind of awful I'm afraid... I'm even thinking about not going to Palexpo now, hearing Nadal's grunting and vamossing will be beyond me...
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I agree, mirkaland. The non-fan hater will always find something to justify the hate. No one claims Roger is perfect, not even his most ardent fans. It's just that he is making a decision using his head, instead of his heart. If people can't accept that, nothing can be done about it. Roger doesn't owe them anything.

Moreover, this "ambassador" business is often taken way out of context and blown out of proportion. Roger doesn't derive any special benefit from being the "poster boy". The ATP or the profitable tournaments do not share their takes with him for "promoting the game". What he does as the "chief representative" of the game should be entirely on his own accord and no one should criticize him for "not doing enough" (or, conversely, doing too much). Technically, he provides a very valuable service for free. People should understand that and be happy with what he's able to do.
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Especially Roger always playing to keep them in the world group.
There are a few people on GM who demand that Roger should not be allowed to play in the deciding encounter. It would be unfair towards the other team and that a player should play from the beginning of the year or never.
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There are a few people on GM who demand that Roger should not be allowed to play in the deciding encounter. It would be unfair towards the other team and that a player should play from the beginning of the year or never.
That is why every night I go to sleep thanking providence that GM is not the backbone of the tennis consciousness.
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