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Old 06-05-2010, 09:38 AM   #91
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00:00 | Zberg (NED) vs. (5) Adder A216 (NED) - Missing picks from Adder A216

Damn, I was in SF in Ojai... I thought I did have an SE here....
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Old 06-05-2010, 09:44 AM   #92
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00:00 | Zberg (NED) vs. (5) Adder A216 (NED) - Missing picks from Adder A216

Damn, I was in SF in Ojai... I thought I did have an SE here....
I left a space for you, and took expert advice in the managers thread. Unfortunately you could only have the SE if you reached the Final in Ojai.

Better luck in doubles on Monday.
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Old 06-05-2010, 01:46 PM   #93
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First qualifying round results

00:00 | (1) nicksimioni (BRA) vs. Bye
00:00 | nadal23 (CAN) vs. (6) molosztash (TUR) ranking
00:00 | (2) Lukescion (ITA) vs. Bye
00:08 | tennisfan_77 (CRO) vs. (7) Eland (NED) #SRs: 0-6

10:00 | (3) Tomek (POL) vs. Bye #SRs: 5-0
09:09 | Bujilover (IND) vs. (8) Gemeos (CHN) #SRs: 5-6
00:00 | (4) Broseghini (BRA) vs. Bye
09:00 | Zberg (NED) vs. (5) Adder A216 (NED) #SRs: 5-0

Perfect score Tomek
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Old 06-05-2010, 01:56 PM   #94
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Draw for final qualifying round singles

00:00 | (1) nicksimioni (BRA) vs. (6) molosztash (TUR)
00:00 | (2) Lukescion (ITA) vs. (7) Eland (NED)
00:00 | (3) Tomek (POL) vs. (8) Gêmeos (CHN)
00:00 | (4) Broseghini (BRA) vs. Zberg (NED)
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Main Draws will be done shortly - singles and doubles
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Default Re: Tennis tipping #23a Lugano. Qualy draw and Saturday OOP posted

Actually i've a doubt.

Is it fair enough to send the players who actually missed sending their picks thru the way to next round.

Then wat's the diff between the ones who are actively participating and losing like me.

extremely disappointed.

ranking simply not to be considered.

just leave them out of the draw.

just compare with real tennis.

if someone is not gonna make it in time then they are left out from the draw and the losers are given a lucky loser spot.

just my thoughts.
pls can someone explain.
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Main Draw 1st round singles

00:00 | (1) Overlord (FIN) vs. Q2
00:00 | Black Friday (CAN) vs. Shi Feng (CHN)
00:00 | Miss Glazastik (RUS) vs. John John (FRA)
00:00 | LL vs. (7) maldini (SUI)

00:00 | (3) allan619 (EST) vs. Action Jackson (ICE)
00:00 | -Federers Mate (NZL) vs. lukela85 (ENG)
00:00 | Duncan Ferguson (ARG) vs. arieltandil (ARG)
00:00 | Q3 vs. (8) rodrigol_87 (ARG)

00:00 | (6) HenryMag (POR) vs. mateusz2904 (POL)
00:00 | TankingTheSet (NED) vs. 156mphserve (CAN)
00:00 | MuriloBrasil (ARM) vs. flyingoliver (CHN)
00:00 | Q4 vs. (4) leoneo (CHN)

00:00 | (5) jcreback (USA) vs. Q1
00:00 | jackjones (BRA) vs. jmf07 (AUS)
00:00 | Redguard (RUS) vs. Sander. (NED)
00:00 | Dougie (FIN) vs. (2) mcarvalho (POR)
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Old 06-05-2010, 03:05 PM   #98
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Default Re: Tennis tipping #23a Lugano. Qualy draw and Saturday OOP posted

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Actually i've a doubt.

Is it fair enough to send the players who actually missed sending their picks thru the way to next round.

Then wat's the diff between the ones who are actively participating and losing like me.

extremely disappointed.

ranking simply not to be considered.

just leave them out of the draw.

just compare with real tennis.

if someone is not gonna make it in time then they are left out from the draw and the losers are given a lucky loser spot.

just my thoughts.
pls can someone explain.

OK, I will try to explain. I understand that you are new, and I understand that you are keen. I am trying to look after 3 tournaments at once at the moment, so I really don't have time, but I will do my best.

Once the draw is made it does not get changed.
Each match has 3 possible outcomes
1. A player has a bye
2. A player has a walkover because the opponent does not send picks
3. The match is played and someone wins and someone loses.

If you had been drawn against someone who did not send picks you would have received a walkover. However by the luck of the draw you were drawn against somebody who did send picks and you lost (narrowly)

You are complaining that you think you should go through to the next round because you picked well and somebody else did not pick at all, but went through. This is not a race where you come 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. It is simply a case of beating one opponent, and whether you win by picks, SRs. Shootout, CB or ranking it makes no difference.

Yes, higher ranked players have many advantages, and this is one example. You have to concentrate on getting your ranking up, just like me and everyone else.

As for the lucky loser situation, there are no lucky loser spots in the Final qualy round. In the first qualy round spaces would have been filled by Alts, but there weren't any. In the first round of the main draw spaces are filled by lucky losers from the final qualy round, and if there are still spaces, from the round before.

So you are 5th in the LL list, and one LL already has a MD place, so if 4 players in the MD do not send picks for Monday, and you do, you are definitely in. Even if less than 4 fail to send you still have a chance, depending on whether all the potential LLs send or not.

So don't give up yet, but please, please remember that the TT rules have been formulated over a period of years by some very clever people, and while they may not be perfect they are pretty good at what they are designed to do.
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Old 06-05-2010, 03:15 PM   #99
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Default Re: Tennis tipping #23a Lugano. Qualy draw and Saturday OOP posted

Awesome explanation.

Very Thanx manager.

sorry that annoyed u in such a busy scenario.

i do understand the situation.

lets see.
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Main draw 1st round doubles

00:00 | (1) HenryMag/mcarvalho (POR/POR) vs. Bye/
00:00 | Action Jackson/Dougie (ICE/FIN) vs. Broseghini/Shi Feng (BRA/CHN)
00:00 | (4) maldini/156mphserve (SUI/CAN) vs. John John/TankingTheSet (FRA/NED)
00:00 | -Federers Mate/jmf07 (NZL/AUS) vs. Redguard/Miss Glazastik (RUS/RUS)

00:00 | mateusz2904/Tomek (POL/POL) vs. rodrigol_87/Gêmeos (ARG/CHN)
00:00 | molosztash/flyingoliver (TUR/CHN) vs. (3) Overlord/nicksimioni (FIN/BRA)
00:00 | leoneo/Black Friday (CHN/CAN) vs. Eland/Zberg (NED/NED)
00:00 | jackjones/arieltandil (BRA/ARG) vs. (2) Adder A216/jcreback (NED/USA)
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Default Re: Tennis tipping #23a Lugano. Main draws posted

No official OOP for tomorrow yet, but I will try again in about 3 hours.
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Playing TankingtheSet in both singles and doubles I sure hope he tanks the match as his name impliesI beat him in my first ever TT match, and in RG doubles so I hope he isn't out for revenge
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Sunday OOP

Bruno RODRIGUEZ (MEX) vs Gabriel TRUJILLO-SOLER (ESP) SR1 PTS
David MARRERO (ESP) vs Olivier PATIENCE (FRA) SR2
Andrea ARNABOLDI (ITA) vs Farrukh DUSTOV (UZB) SR3
Martin ALUND (ARG) vs Nicolas RENAVAND (FRA) SR4

Matches count for final qualy round singles.
Send picks to goldenoldie by start of play 11.00 a.m. CEST

Sorry OOP is late, and also sorry I will not be posting differences tomorrow till about noon.
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Sunday differences

Spreadsheet is corrupt, so I am posting diffs by hand to save any more waiting. I will reload the spreadsheet later to update.

Nicksimioni vs molosztash
Missing picks from molosztash

Lukescion vs E;and
Trujillo-Soler, Marrero vs Rodriguez, Patience
SRs Trujillo-Soler 20 vs Rodriguez 21, Marrero 21 vs Patience 20

Tomek vs Gêmeos
Arnaboldi vs Dustov

Broseghini vs Zberg
Missing picks from Broseghini

Please check for mistakes. Thanks
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